Posted on 11/13/2012 8:41:25 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett
My daughter who is currently in Naples, Italy is being separated unexpectedly from the Navy. Not sure if this will be Administrative or Honorable. She has a TS clearance and a clean Navy record except for failing PRT. She is planning on using the GI bill and continuing with college and applying in the mil contractor field when she is back stateside. She has college credits started towards a major in Criminology (she's changing it to Criminal Justice, she says) and minor in History. With everything that is going on with our military and 3 letter agencies, I'm concerned that this may not be the wisest choice when it comes to job choices or a degree. Can anyone give any solid alternative ideas for her to check into?
No kidding. We had an applicant for a job who looked good on paper, so we hired him. He scored high on the Army Physical Fitness Test and his record was fairly good. Within a month or so, we figured someone else had prepared his application. The guy could not write a sentence without several spelling and grammar errors.
She has TS/SCI. Her sister (same field, same clearance) says that poly is not necessary unless she were going to work for NSA or at Ft Meade.
wow—very thorough and enlightening answer! Thanks so much—hope it gets forwarded to the young woman who’s at the focus of this thread.
sorry I handed out bogus info. Guess I should have checked on their salaries these days...I thought they made pretty good money...
medical equipment repair technicians usually start out with 6 figure salaries...
BS
I agree. I worked as a biomed after electronics school. I think I was at $20K after three years. The top guys were maybe 40-50K
There is such a thing as ‘ with prejudice’. Makes a big difference on trying to deactivate.
Reactivate. Damned iPhone.
That is extremely incorrect.
Not helpful. lol
Yes, it is none of my business, but YOU thrust the issue under our noses.
This is about the most stupid thing to ever hit Navy Regs. In the day half my shop including the guy who could carry 2-200 pound barrels one on each shoulder, my First Class and all my Chiefs, would have been booted. Most were very physically fit BTW.
Wow. Didn’t realize by posting this someone was going to find a way of attacking. If you’ve read the back and forth on this thread, you’d know that the type of discharge has been clarified. And, by the way, we are extremely close, but that doesn’t mean I have all details in real time from half way across the globe! I have gotten a lot of good advice here from helpful FReepers. If you have nothing of value to contribute, please go away.
Maybe SHE didn't know herself. She had just failed the third time in her enlistment that very day by what was posted. Read post and maybe you can understand. Rules and REGS change around so much. My dad got an Honorable DC after 195 days in the Navy because his dad died while my dad was in A-school and they needed a male wage earner at home.
Have her get in contact with multiple universities about becoming a student. Use the GI Bill. Many universities are wanting “older” students, especially veterans, to help with “quotas” (believe it or not). There are organizations that can help her find the college/university of her choice, and get going on the degree.
Then? It’s all up to her.
/Note - I was discharged honorable, but with a medical discharge. The TS/SSBI clearance didn’t really help me in any of my career choices after the Navy (I was a CTT3), but it’s nice to have on a resume’.
As an IS, perhaps she will enjoy investigations or loss prevention. Also she should be able to get into an intel-related contract position with her TS clearance. Sounds like she has a bright future ahead of her and i’m excited for her! I wish her the best!
Thank you so much everyone for your replies. My daughter has read them all and appreciates your thoughtfulness and efforts to help. You all have given her a lot to consider as she starts making plans.
IS2 and MHIL-E
I forgot to mention, too, in regard to what someone said earlier about making a better salary in safety... Many of the loss prevention careers also encompass the corporate safety function, so that might also be a winning combination for her.
OK I work for LMCO. She wont even get a look if she doesn’t have a degree. Best bet is to get into a government position to maintain security clearance while going to school. That TSCI is worth its weight in gold but it has to be renewed every 5 years. It is expensive to maintain which is why she wants to have someone else foot the bill. Once she has a degree she should contact the various contractors like LMCO, Northop, General Dynamics, Raytheon, etc. and see what she is qualified to do. I don’t think a criminology degree is going to do much good in the government contracting side of the house. She can visit the various websites for these contractors and see what kind of jobs are open and their requirements. A good solid science degree and a management degree is probably what she is looking at. I joke about immigrating to Australia, but not really, they are looking for highly qualified people and I have my resume out there looking. Tell her she needs to start looking now. She needs to make up her mind what she wants to do then see if she can get in with a government agency while she gets her degree. The job market in the states sucks right now....
Yep.
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