[TomGuy]

I posted this in another thread:

Nielson ratings showed about a 6 million drop in election night viewers from 2008 to 2012.

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Romney lost

VA by about 110k, out of 3.69 million or by about 3%
OH by about 100k, out of 5.29 million or by about 2%
PA by about 280k, out of 5.53 million or by about 5%
IA by about 90k, out of 1.54 million or by nearly 6%
CO by about 100k, out of 2.36 million or by about 4%

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The overall totals so far are

Obama 61.7 million (51.3%) for 2012 and 69.5 million (53.7%) for 2008
Romney 58.5 million (48.7%) for 2012 and 59.9 million (McCain 46.3%) for 2008

Total 120.2 million for 2012 and 129.4 million for 2008

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It would seem that several of the ‘swing states’ were not such swing states afterall.

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Without substantial proof, voter fraud will be difficult to prove. The percentages in the swing states Obama won seem fairly consistent.

[BroJoeK]

TomGuy: "It would seem that several of the ‘swing states’ were not such swing states afterall."

Wikipedia shows state-by-state vote totals for 2004 and 2008, but not yet for 2012, so it's impossible to say if Romney lost previous McCain voters, or if Romney held constant while Obama increased votes in those states.

To put it another way: if Libertarians & others siphoned off a million votes from solid Republican or Democrat states, that would change nothing in the electoral college.
But if some came from critical "swing states", it might make a difference.

2012 Obama vs. Romney by state:

2012 Obama vs. Romney by county:

Compare -- 2008 Obama vs. McCain by county:

[BroJoeK]

TomGuy: "It would seem that several of the ‘swing states’ were not such swing states afterall."

Wikipedia shows state-by-state vote totals for 2004 and 2008, but not yet for 2012, so it's impossible to say if Romney lost previous McCain voters, or if Romney held constant while Obama increased votes in those states.

To put it another way: if Libertarians & others siphoned off a million votes from solid Republican or Democrat states, that would change nothing in the electoral college.
But if some came from critical "swing states", it might make a difference.

2012 Obama vs. Romney by state:

2012 Obama vs. Romney by county:

Compare -- 2008 Obama vs. McCain by county: