Posted on 11/07/2012 8:14:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
I just did a quick lookup of the Obama vs McCain popular vote as compared to the Obama vs Romney Popular vote and here is what I see:
Election 2008
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008
2008: Obama: 69,456,897 McCain: 59,934,814
TOTAL VOTES CAST: 129,391,711
Obama Victory Margin: 52.9% to 45.7% (9,522,083 votes)
Obama: 365 EV McCain: 173 EV
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Election 2012
Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-election-results
2012: Obama: 60,652,149 Romney: 57,810,390
TOTAL VOTES CAST: 118,462,539 (2,841,759 votes)
Obama Victory Margin: 51.2% to 48.8%
Assuming Obama takes Florida (which as of this writing is still uncalled)...
Obama: 332 EV Romney: 206 EV
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What I find interesting are the following:
1) There were more people who voted in 2008 compared to 2012.
2) McCain got MORE votes in 2008 than Romney in 2012. In fact, McCain got 2,124,424 MORE VOTES than Romney !!
QUESTION : WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE 2,124,424 McCAIN VOTES IN 2012?
3) Obama LOST OVER 8,804,748 Votes in 2012 compared to 2008!!
QUESTION: What happened to those 8,804,748 voters? Did they stay home?
I can only conclude the following, based on the above observations:
* There was LESS ENTHUSIASM by Americans to vote in 2012 than in 2008.
* Contrary to what we were led to believe by the GOP and what some FReepers claim they saw on the ground in their state, REPUBLICANS WERE NOT ENTHUSIASTIC TO VOTE THIS YEAR. In fact, I can see at least 2 Million of them staying home this year compared to 2008 based on the above numbers.
So much for the huge Get Out the Vote Effort, the huge, sellout crowds in Red Rocks Colorado and in Ohio...
* Even though Obama lost over 8 Million votes this year, most of those voters DID NOT switch to Romney, preferring to stay home ( I suspect many of these would be the disappointed youth of 2008 and the socially conservative blacks of 2008. The former still can't find good jobs and the latter couldn't vote for a gay marriage supporting candidate. However, they still could not vote for Romney. So, they stayed home ).
Also, I cannot help but conclude that a huge proportion of the GOP base STAYED HOME in 2012. Otherwise, where were the over 2 million votes that went to McCain in 2008?
This was a self-inflicted loss on the part of the Republicans.
RE: From what I see we will have a much stronger bench in 2016.
Do you see anyone on the horizon?
RE: Problem is, immeasurable damage will have been done to the country by then.
If what you say is true, that conservatives and evangelicals stayed home in droves rather than vote for Romney, then they have simply allowed the immeasurable damage ( your words ) to be done thinking this would be better for the country. How so, is something these people have not adequately explained to my personal satisfaction.
RE: . We just have fewer conservative voters. 2.5 million have died each year since 2004, and well over half of those were age 75 and above (3/4ths were age 65 and above). These were depression era people that tended to vote and tended to vote conservatively.
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Well, this does not bode well for the country’s future does it? If conservatives are mostly older and dying out and fewer and fewer younger breed are replacing them, what does that tell us about the direction of this country?
If Demography is destiny, then this country will be : MORE LIBERAL, MORE HISPANIC and MORE EUROPE-LIKE.
RE: Catholics gave him 48%.
well, this tells me that MOST CATHOLICS (52%) either: Voted Obama, or stayed home.
Which is to say, most Catholic don’t care that their church and institutions are under attack and would rather:
A) Allow Obama’s minions to attack their church and institutions with impunity or;
B) Actively support Obama’s minions’ attacks on their church
and institutions with impunity.
In what way are they still Catholics other than the fact that they were baptized as infants?
Maybe some of those Republican votes were early or absentee and wound up in the trash can instead of being counted.
Because they are Catholics and identify as Catholics, not Protestant or atheist, or Jewish, or non-Christian, etc.
Do you think the vast pool of diversity called “Protestant” is tested for religious purity before being counted?
Separating out members of a single church, a single Christian denomination “Catholic”, is about as good a test for purity as it gets, the Protestant category is just a collection of everything, Black churches, gay churches, Southern Baptists, Episcopalians, people who have never been baptized or ever belonged to any church, but who still say that they are Christian.
I think Rubio, Jindal and possibly Pence could be ready next cycle. I think Christie did some damage to himself with his Obama lovefest that he would have to repair.
Yeah, but not by enough, in the swing states(Catholic).
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