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Pure Vanity: Why Things Have Changed With Blacks and Obama After Tonight
Myself | 10/27/12

Posted on 10/27/2012 10:01:48 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

I just had to come on to FR tonight and post an experience I had this evening in downtown Dallas.

There was a celebration going on with a brand new 5.5 acre park that opened today downtown and there were live bands and fireworks and families and food and drinks...a really nice cold Fall night in Dallas. I would say there was easily 35,000 if not more in attendance.

So what makes tonight so different? Well...it was the communication between black and white families that was taking place. I would hear random conversations coming and going through the night amongst the crowd and we would engage in some of them and here was the fascinating thing that I discovered...blacks have had it with Obama.

I am not talking about what the MSNBC crowd would call "Uncle Tom/Sell Out Blacks" either. I am talking the straight up $10 to $12 an hour wage earners who are not making it at all.

One by one by one by one they either said they were not going to vote because Texas is going Romney anyway and that their families in Arkansas and Louisiana felt the same way. They are not only fiscally worse since Obama took office but they felt that Obama did NOTHING to improve the image of blacks in general.

Read that again.

They felt that Obama did NOTHING to improve the image of blacks in general.

That is pretty powerful stuff.

A large number of really good and hard working folks who were extremely offended by Obama embracing gay marriage, pissing on the military (so many folks have kids in the Army, Navy, and Air Force), and that when he got to the White House he didn't come visit inner cities, that he appointed people who didn't have anything in common with where he claimed he was coming from back in 2008.

My fellow Freepers, I wish you could have seen and heard what I heard tonight with my friends and family. They are staying home. They are not voting period. They were honest that they didn't believe in Romney and said if he does prove that he can turn the economy and jobs situation around and restores our foundation in God back to this country then they will reconsider in 4 years...but as of this year? Barack ain't got their vote and he does not have the vote of their families either.

Common words heard tonight were "He don't care", "He's OK but he ain't gettin' it done", "I am working harder than I ever have and never get to go out and do anything."

The saddest thing was a family of 10..10! Mom and Dad married for 25 years they voted for Reagan, Clinton twice, Gore, Bush, and Obama. They said they have 3 kids who have moved back home now and 2 are getting divorced and they have 2 kids each and that if you asked them 5 years ago if their family and lives would be this destroyed they would never have believed it.

The grandfather/Dad said to me that he owns a lawn/landscaping business and how many people he has had to lay off because people are doing their own lawns more and more now and landscaping is becoming a luxury item even for commercial accounts.

At the end of the day he said everything comes down to the security of having a job and a pay check and his faith and his rights protected and that voting for Obama was a "gesture vote" last time and he won't do it again.

I am just dying to know how many families these stories are being played out in across the nation tonight.

I can say with confidence that Barack Obama is going to lose at least 20 to 25% of the black vote he had last time which can do nothing but put the finishing touches on his epic collapse to come.


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To: jocon307
This post might be a little garbled, but I hope I got my points across.

Your post is fine. I agree with what you said.

41 posted on 10/27/2012 11:10:39 PM PDT by Daaave ("Listen to them. Children of the night. What music they make.")
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To: onyx

I typed it as if I had a tape recorder on


42 posted on 10/27/2012 11:16:10 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I come from a very large family of black Democrats. What you saw and heard tonight from black people you talked to, has been going on with my family for the last two years.

Me being the sole conservative Republican in the clan, they won’t come right out and tell me how disillusioned they are with Obama, but the last time I was back home in California, all traces of their love affair with The One had vanished.

When the subject of politics inevitably came up, they all sat and quietly listened to me expound upon my conservative views, without interruption. In times past, they would have all ganged up on me, and shouted me down, but something had dramatically changed with them.

To be honest, it was actually unnerving. I’ve never seen them this way before.


43 posted on 10/27/2012 11:17:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I have a few extended family members who are degenerate liberals and have decided to sit this one out. I suspect that’s how most of them are. They know Zero is crap, they can’t bring themselves to vote for Romney, so they’ll either vote for Ralph Nader or stay home.


44 posted on 10/27/2012 11:19:08 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: advertising guy

LOL. Well, your tape recorder is a hoot! Leave it on “record”!


45 posted on 10/27/2012 11:22:00 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: My Favorite Headache

My niece’s husband is black. They voted Obama in ‘08. Not this year. They’re angry about his immigration policies that will wind up with illegals taking jobs from (black) Americans. There was one other strong reason, but I can’t recall it now (gay marriage, IIRC). Anyhow, they’ll be voting Romney.


46 posted on 10/27/2012 11:27:10 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: My Favorite Headache

Where I live people are defacing cars parked near Romney signs.


47 posted on 10/27/2012 11:29:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama didn't fix it.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
The economy and Obama's support for Gay marriage is what turned off many black people away from him.
Black people in general never bought into the lie that the same struggle that they had was or is somehow in terms related to the imagined so called struggle of homos.

However ? I would go on to say that black people have wasted their political capital by voting for this fraud.
I do hope that you can convince and encourage at least some of them to give Romney a chance now, today in this election.
48 posted on 10/27/2012 11:31:21 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: onyx

Yep..I don’t think it’s going to happen for the kids this time. They don’t seem to be feeling it. I think that’s why we saw the “sexy Obama political ad” come out...they know the college kids aren’t feeling it this time.

Also, those college kids aren’t all dummies. They are seeing mom and dad struggling. Some of them may become Republicans at 30 instead of 40 :)


49 posted on 10/27/2012 11:33:16 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: LongWayHome
Take this to the bank: blacks will vote well over 90% for Obama.

Try not to think of black voters as such a monolithic generality. Believe it or not, there are great differences in the opinions and personal considerations of blacks, just as there are among any other group of Americans.

The anecdotal stories you're reading about some blacks' disappointments with Obama, are real, and should not be discounted. The truth is, that sentiment is widespread, and not confined to blacks who are unemployed, or who don't think Obama's done enough to rip off Whitey.

My siblings are all professional people with careers, homes, 401Ks, investment portfolios, college kids, grandkids, etc. They're also black Democrats who voted for Obama in 2008, and every one of them quit singing Obama's praises two years ago. Even during this hotly contested election, they haven't uttered a single word about him.

I half expect most of them to stay home on election day. Of those blacks who do get to the polls, perhaps 9 in 10 will vote for Obama, but their numbers will be greatly decreased from the turnout of four years ago.

50 posted on 10/27/2012 11:33:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: LongWayHome

Same as 2008? Nooooo wayyyyyy.


51 posted on 10/27/2012 11:35:50 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: LongWayHome
I’m guessing just about the same number of blacks are going to come out in 12 for Obama as they did in 08.

You should quit guessing, and go talk to some black voters. Talk to a lot of them (as I do). You'll be amazed at how apathetic they are about The One.

52 posted on 10/27/2012 11:38:06 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Now the Conservative Community just need to 1. Have a Plan A in order to prevent voter fraud from being used to get Obama reelected 2. A Plan B, C, D, E, F through Z to allow us to prepare to handle the worst case disaster scenario that Obama gets elected through voter fraud and other means. What are the Plans A through Z that we have ?


53 posted on 10/27/2012 11:38:19 PM PDT by emax
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To: Windflier
When the subject of politics inevitably came up, they all sat and quietly listened to me expound upon my conservative views, without interruption. In times past, they would have all ganged up on me, and shouted me down, but something had dramatically changed with them.

windflier, your posts are always interesting! Next time you should pass out Sowell's books!! I have many of his books -- we are blessed to have his genius in writing.

54 posted on 10/27/2012 11:40:13 PM PDT by sand88
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To: jocon307
...to me the unique failure of Obama, in terms of the black americans has been how he did NOTHING, NOTHING! to at least try and use the bully pulpit to pull the black family off the edge of the abyss.


55 posted on 10/27/2012 11:42:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Why don’t you mention how much the new park cost taxpayers?


56 posted on 10/27/2012 11:44:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Windflier

I understnd that there are blacks who are upset with Obama like the rest of us are. I don’t believe this election will turn one way or the other on the black vote. It will be independents & women who swing this thing to Mitt. Might less blacks come out this year....perhaps. But not enough will stay home to swing this election to Mitt IMO. Sorry folks, that’s just how I see it.


57 posted on 10/27/2012 11:46:13 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Windflier
" When the subject of politics inevitably came up, they all sat and quietly listened to me expound upon my conservative views, without interruption. In times past, they would have all ganged up on me, and shouted me down, but something had dramatically changed with them. "

Perhaps maybe they have crossed that line of " seeing the light " or perhaps they are on that threshold.
They need a soft gentle coaxing in the right direction.

In your case I would not try to rub it in if Obama loses.
It seems there is a very good opening for you there and if you had enough time you could be persuasive to have them actually vote for Romney.
My mom ?
She is or was a life long diehard FDR always voted Democrat.
Not so in 2008 and not so this year either, so there is hope.
In your case ?
Show them you love them, show them it's ok to let go of things that you thought were once true.

They could be looking for a reason to admit they were wrong ( not that you need them to actually admit it to you ).

Begin with a soft handed approach with them.
I am very sure that they are very aware of how they treated you, mocked you, ganged up on you in the past... but, show them grace.

58 posted on 10/27/2012 11:46:33 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: LongWayHome

 I know of two black families who are solid Democrats. We’ve talked often. They’re educated, religious, sports fans, family-oriented. They’re not going to vote. The local slate of candidates doesn’t impress them and most of them run unopposed. Obama is a mess in their opinion. They resent the parties he has at the WH that have no bearing on entertaining dignitaries. They hate the way he talks. Jive talking’. it rubs them the wrong way. They never asked anything of him except he be a good steward and a positive image for blacks. He failed.

You’re probably right that he will get 90% of the black vote but I think there will be far fewer voting.


59 posted on 10/27/2012 11:46:36 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (2016 looms)
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To: Windflier
Thanks for your post, and the other one above it .. encouraging anecdotal news, and not isolated, I'm sure.

Every journey truly begins with that first single step !

60 posted on 10/27/2012 11:50:21 PM PDT by tomkat
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