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Breakthrough in world's oldest undeciphered writing
BBC News ^ | Monday, October 22, 2012 | Sean Coughlan

Posted on 10/22/2012 8:03:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The world's oldest undeciphered writing system, which has so far defied attempts to uncover its 5,000-year-old secrets, could be about to be decoded by Oxford University academics.

This international research project is already casting light on a lost bronze age middle eastern society where enslaved workers lived on rations close to the starvation level...

Dr Dahl's secret weapon is being able to see this writing more clearly than ever before... a big black dome is clicking away and flashing out light...

It's being used to help decode a writing system called proto-Elamite, used between around 3200BC and 2900BC in a region now in the south west of modern Iran...

The clay tablets were put inside this machine, the Reflectance Transformation Imaging System, which uses a combination of 76 separate photographic lights and computer processing to capture every groove and notch on the surface of the clay tablets.

It allows a virtual image to be turned around, as though being held up to the light at every possible angle...

But this is painstaking work. So far Dr Dahl has deciphered 1,200 separate signs, but he says that after more than 10 years study much remains unknown, even such basic words as "cow" or "cattle"...

He's discovered that the original texts seem to contain many mistakes -- and this makes it extremely tricky for anyone trying to find consistent patterns...

Even without knowing all the symbols, Dr Dahl says it's possible to work out the context of many of the messages on these tablets.

The numbering system is also understood, making it possible to see that much of this information is about accounts of the ownership and yields from land and people. They are about property and status, not poetry.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: citiesoftheplain; deadsea; elam; elamite; elamites; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; greatriftvalley; iran; jiroft; language; marhashi; protoelamite; valleyofsiddim; warahshe; yusefmajidzadeh
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To: SunkenCiv

Kilroy was here?

I bet that draws a lot of blank looks from the current generation.


41 posted on 10/23/2012 6:30:40 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Warning: Anyone who reads this will release Cthulhu”


42 posted on 10/23/2012 6:49:42 AM PDT by techcor (I hope Obama succeeds, in being a one term president.)
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To: JoeProBono

Wonderful!

I Laughed out loud!

(Ain’t PhotoShop wonderful?” One of these days I’ll have to buy a copy!)


43 posted on 10/23/2012 6:53:58 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: dfwgator

LOL. Classic.


44 posted on 10/23/2012 6:59:14 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: sauron

new update, its still a cook book, but the scanner picked up more words now the title reads “How To Serve Man”


45 posted on 10/23/2012 7:00:32 AM PDT by Docbarleypop
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To: BwanaNdege

>Ain’t PhotoShop wonderful?” One of these days I’ll have to buy a copy!

Don’t.
It’s far too expensive. I do stuff pretty much just using IrfanView.


46 posted on 10/23/2012 7:30:35 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: dfwgator

“A stinkin’ COMMERCIAL??”


47 posted on 10/23/2012 10:25:48 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks! I’ve just downloaded IrfanView and will give it a try.


48 posted on 10/23/2012 12:23:50 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: SunkenCiv
"But this is painstaking work. So far Dr Dahl has deciphered 1,200 separate signs, but he says that after more than 10 years study much remains unknown, even such basic words as "cow" or "cattle"..."

It is the long-lost To Serve Beef: The Complete Party Guide To Hosting A Beef Bash in Bashan cookbook.

49 posted on 10/23/2012 12:25:38 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: BwanaNdege

I also use Paint.NET


50 posted on 10/23/2012 3:08:48 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: SunkenCiv

How does seeing them from a 3 d view help decipher them, as they very most likely are meant to be read as 2 d anyway? Someone please enlighten me or at least as seen from the front by the naked eye. They didn’t run around with a special machine to view every possible their script from every possible angle. They just read it.


51 posted on 10/24/2012 1:16:59 AM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower

Because they’re worn (because of age), the 3d image helps.


52 posted on 10/24/2012 6:54:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Then there are the oddballs like Finish and Basque.


53 posted on 10/25/2012 12:29:15 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Finnish is related to Hungarian and Estonia, inter alia. ]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languages

Basque may not actually be a complete isolate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_language#Relation_with_other_languages


54 posted on 10/25/2012 2:05:32 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Obama: Brought to you by the letter "O" and the number 16 trillion.)
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