The Romans didn't get it.
Posted on 10/20/2012 4:56:17 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
The Romans didn't get it.
LOL! Pretty good.
I was also told by a buddy who researched the Ark some years back, that an elite team of Israeli commandos went to Ethiopia back in the early 2000’s aboard a C130 transport and supposedly left with a very important artifact.
Each one of these commandos were descendants of the tribe of Levi.
I still don't think the Ark has left Israel since the days of Soloman.
That would be miraculous! More likely, the blood of Christ, collected in a challis, was indeed used to anoint the Ark by those of the day who knew its secret location.
May sound far out, but he has put a lot of research into his theories and there seems to be evidence that backs many of his claims.
There is much more to learn in the video as he builds his case. :)
Not really a Bible believer, are you?
I wouldn’t consider myself an atheist, but I have grown more skeptical of many things we’ve been told in life, whether in the realm of religion or elsewhere.
On the whole, I believe that religion is a positive influence on many people’s lives and that’s a good thing. I also believe that the “separation of church and state” zealots tend to be crappy people that should adopt a live-and-let-live attitude instead. But faith, in and of itself, isn’t enough to answer the many questions and concerns I’ve had over the years.
And for those of you who believe wholeheartedly in everything the Bible says, good for you. I’ll bet that if we ever meet face to face I’ll probably think you’re wonderful people.
Not really a theist either, are you? You either are or you aren't.
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more intersting is what was in it and how it was used.
“God’s radio”
Just so it’s understood, here’s a mainstream traditional Jewish account of the location of the Ark of the Covenant:
http://www.ou.org/torah/tt/5766/haazinu66/mikdash.htm
...”At the time when the Holy Ark was hidden away, they also hid the Shemen HaMishcha, the jar of manna, etc.” (Horayot 12a).
Radak (R. David Kimchi 1160-1235 CE on II Divrei Hayamim 35:3) quotes a no longer extant Midrash. “Our rabbis of blessed memory said, ‘that (Yoshiyahu, the last righteous king of Judah [639 BCE - 608BCE], realizing that the destruction of Bayit Rishon was imminent), gave instructions to hide the Aron (and the oil, the vessel with the manna, etc.)…
There was a stone in the western side of the Kodesh HaKodashim and the Ark rested on it…. When Solomon built the First Temple, (Ru’ach HaKodesh revealed to him) that one day it would be destroyed. Therefore, in anticipation, he excavated a place to hide the Aron in winding, hidden tunnels deep below the surface of the earth. The stone upon which the ark rested, covered the opening of that tunnel. Yoshiyahu ordered that the Aron be hidden in the place that Sh’lomo had prepared. ‘(And he said to the Levites that taught all Israel, that were holy unto the Lord) ‘Put the Holy Ark in the (House that Solomon King of Israel did build)…’ And they hid the Aron, the staff of Aaron, the jar containing the manna and the Shemen HaMishcha.”
When the Beit HaMikdash is rebuilt speedily in our time, Eliyahu HaNavi will restore them to us...
No. Not really. No more then the Colossus of Rhodes "never existed in physical form".
In fact we have less evidence for the Colossus then we do for the Ark.
The most likely consideration is that it no longer exists anywhere. There is no reason to believe anything to the contrary.
The Dimensions quoted are likely close but not exact.
2.5 cubits / 1.5 = 1.6666 Near but not right on the Golden Mean of 1.618.
I would guess the height and width dimension is 2.5/1.618 = 1.647 cubits or 1 cubit 14 .55 fingers.
Or possibly 1.5/1.618=.927 or 1 cubit 20.55 fingers if the height and width are taken as the correct dimension
Either of those shapes would be the most pleasing and perhaps ordained by God. Since such a shape was widely known nd preceeded the construction of the Ark, the design to the shape of perfection seems very likely
Thanks, Civ
Interesting theories- some wacky, some far-fetched, some plausible. When the good LORD decides we should find it, it will be found.
Read the Sign and the Seal.
The Ark disappeared from Biblical reference during the reign of King Manasseh. Manasseh profaned the Holy of Holies in the Temple with pagan images. The presence of pagan idols next to the Ark of the Living God would have been the worst of blasphemies. The Levites spirited the Ark out of Jerusalem at this time long before the Babylonian captivity and took it to Lake Tana in Ethiopia. From there it wound up in the Church of St. Mary in Axum.
I believe this. There are too many weird connections with the Ark in the Christian Orthodox Church of Ethiopia and Manasseh was the most evil of the kings of Israel.
The story about the Queen of Sheba and Menelik is probably apocryphal.
I wouldn’t go anywhere near it. Only very holy hands should touch it.
Nor is there any spiritual reason for it to exist any more.
ALL the things built by Moses were shadows of, and patterned upon, the REAL items in Heaven.
The exception was the Tabernacle, which was a temporary, portable structure for use until the earthly Temple would be built at the designated place; that Temple itself was a shadow of the Heavenly Temple.
Jesus, having nailed the blood ordinances to the Cross with His sacrifice; and having rent the veil of the Holy of Holies, has made obsolete all of the Temple furniture (and, indeed, the Temple itself: "in three days, I will rebuild...": He is our temple.) related to sacrifices, or the need for an intermediary (earthly High Priest) to approach the Mercy Seat on our behalf. He is now our High Priest, and all can openly approach Him.
Like the brazen snake on the staff that Moses was instructed to make in the wilderness later did, there is every danger that the Ark and other artifacts would become objects of idolatry, being worshiped in their own right. Indeed, we see much of that mind set already, even though the Ark has no verifiable physical existence; and to a lesser extent, we also see it in the Shroud of Turin.
God hates idolatry, and I have no doubt that he would have long since removed these items as the potential stumbling blocks that they are.
The real Ark is in Heaven, in the real Temple.
It’s long gone, unless number 3 (/4) is correct; the Ethiopian claim is something that probably grew in the telling, and whatever underlying legend was there got lost since the Middle Ages with the Ark storied plastered over it. The other stories are ridiculous modern inventions (if one classifies the medieval mumbo jumbo of the Hadith as ‘modern’).
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