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I Just Got Fired.... Now What?
Vanity | 10/19/2012 | Vanity

Posted on 10/19/2012 2:14:49 PM PDT by Volunteer

I was fired from my job today after 5 years. They have offered me a 5 month severance package, the catch is I have to sign some agreement that I can't understand.

They explained they would not pay me my monthly salary this month or my 207 hours of vacation unless I sign the agreement.

Can any one out there give me some advice as to what I should do? I am in Wisconsin and I know nothing about Employment Law here.

Any suggestions would be very helpful and very appreciated.


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To: Volunteer

I was in a similar situation. They were firing me but said if I signed the agreement which stated I was quiting I would get a severance. By signing it I was not able to collect unemployment and the court wouldn’t reduce my support obligation because I “quit” instead of getting fired. If yours is anything like that DON’T sign it.


21 posted on 10/19/2012 2:24:11 PM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Volunteer

Need to talk to a lawyer to have him review the agreement.

Most of the time if you are a white man your recourses are nil, you just have to move on.

Two possibilities are Age Discrimination or Detrimental Reliance, if neither of these apply to you, more than likely regardless of the cause they can fire you.

So don’t get your hopes up, most states are employment at will. Meaning that if there is no contract, either party can quit the relationship for any reason.

If Wisconsin is one of these states, they are likely just being nice and hedging their bets to make sure that you don’t come back and tie them in knots in court.


22 posted on 10/19/2012 2:24:18 PM PDT by dila813
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To: madison10
Thank you.

I asked if after the 5 months they would deny my unemployment claim. The HR guy said no. But, when I asked him if it was in the agreement, he said it wasn't.

Since I know the owner very well and truly do not trust the guy, I know I am going to have to get an attorney.

23 posted on 10/19/2012 2:24:45 PM PDT by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: al baby

Go on Twitter and find some dirt on your boss! ;-)


24 posted on 10/19/2012 2:26:04 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: Volunteer

Sign nothing until you talk to a lawyer specializing in employment law.


25 posted on 10/19/2012 2:26:04 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: glorgau

Goood advice in this post. I would add start working very hard in finding new employment. ASAP The more resumes you get out there the better. Hunt hard and give yourself options. Good Luck


26 posted on 10/19/2012 2:26:19 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Volunteer

Ask for a copy.

Retain a lawyer for an hour.

Get a professional opinion.

By doing this you give yourself leverage and can save loads of money.


27 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:05 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Volunteer

Contact the Wisconsin Labor Board


28 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:07 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: Volunteer
If you "quit"...you might not be able to collect unemployment. Check with that office first.

What are the chances of you picking up another job soon.

29 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (r)
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To: madison10

I bet you nailed it.

I bet they are offering a sweet severance package in exchange for waiving unemployment benefit claims.

But still - if unemployment insurance paid 1/2 of your monthly pay, then 5 months of full pay is still better than 12 months of unemployment.

Asssuming unemployment benefits are 1/2. YMMV.


30 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Volunteer

Wow, 5 months? I’ve never been offered that when laid off. Be grateful.


31 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:36 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Volunteer
The HR guy then explained that if I sign this agreement, that it would be seen that I quit in lieu of termination.

Will you still be able to draw unemployment compensation since you "quit"? They might fight you on that issue. It happened to my son, and it took him several months fighting it.

32 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:49 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: Volunteer
When I asked why I was being fired, I was told "performance".

1. Were your previous performance evaluations all favorable? If not, it's a blessing to move on, although you should also cover your bases. If so, definitely have a labor lawyer look into it.

2. Do you have a Romney sticker on your car, a Romney sign on your house, or a Romney endorsement on your Facebook page? If so, be sure your lawyer is a conservative.

33 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:51 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Sesame Street: Obama brought to you by the letter O and the number 16 billion. - Mitt)
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To: Volunteer
When I asked why I was being fired, I was told "performance"

How did you do on your last performance review? Were you given any warnings between your review and being terminated?

34 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:57 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Volunteer

Probably should have a lawyer look at it.

Perhaps there may be something in there that if you take the severence you can’t file for unemployment (as it would be a lower percentage of your salary but it would last longer and it would be coming out of their pockets).

That or there may be something in there saying you can’t directly compete with them or take a job with another company that’s like the one you had with them. Non-competes aren’t legal here unless you agree to them. Even then sometimes they are so broad they can be dismissed if it’s so broad it prevents you from working, period.

go see a good lawyer.


35 posted on 10/19/2012 2:27:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Volunteer
Five months severance for 5 years of service is a good deal. Check for non compete clauses in there.
36 posted on 10/19/2012 2:28:07 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Volunteer

A: Get a lawyer.

Never sign something you don’t understand.


37 posted on 10/19/2012 2:28:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( “Obama, Obama, there are still a billion Osamas” - Cairo Protesters, 9/11/2012)
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To: Volunteer; BubbaBasher
Bubbabasher beat me to it.

By signing it I was not able to collect unemployment

A visit to an attorney will cost you minimal compared to what it could cost you if you sign the wrong thing. Be safe.

38 posted on 10/19/2012 2:28:22 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Volunteer
The HR guy then explained that if I sign this agreement, that it would be seen that I quit in lieu of termination.

Red flag there.....in Wisconsin, if you "quit" you are typically not eligible for unemployment compensation.

You have my sympathies....my hubby was just fired very unexpectedly in August. No severance and the jerk employer even fought unemployment. Thankfully he is working again.

Where in WI are you and what's your line of work?

39 posted on 10/19/2012 2:28:44 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (People on stage at 2nd debate: 1 Romney 2 Eye Candy 3 Lie Candy)
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To: Volunteer

If you resign, you will be ineligible for unemployment money.


40 posted on 10/19/2012 2:28:50 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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