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1 posted on 10/13/2012 4:43:41 PM PDT by Vision
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But, this isn't as bad as when Armstrong destroyed his assistant from Austin who felt he needed to leave the US and now resides in New Zealand.
2 posted on 10/13/2012 4:45:55 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Vision

The NYT is guilty of doping the news they publish.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 4:58:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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I read somewhere that he’d passed every official test, for many years. Now, I’ve recently read that the USADA has all kinds of negative drug test results, witness testimony etc, for evidence. I honestly don’t know what to believe, but I’m getting very skeptical of LA altogether.


5 posted on 10/13/2012 5:51:51 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (The 0bummer Penguin: I played this country like a harp from hell.)
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To: Vision; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; glorgau; ..

Cycling Ping

I was a strong Lance supporter for as long as I could find something to hold on to and a reason to believe him. The evidence to the contrary has moved me.

9 posted on 10/13/2012 6:10:42 PM PDT by Baynative
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To: Vision

Another conspiracy.


15 posted on 10/13/2012 6:23:59 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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I’ll bet that this story gets more coverage than the Libya attack and cover up.
I don’t give a rats arse about some dumb jock cheating while he road his bicycle for a living.


23 posted on 10/13/2012 6:37:17 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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I believe Armstrong's defenders/fans who say that Lance was a choir boy.


25 posted on 10/13/2012 6:41:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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Weasel Armstrong is one of the greatest frauds in the history of sports. Pure slimebag.


29 posted on 10/13/2012 8:44:46 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (If I had a failed one-term President, he'd look like Obama.)
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To: Vision
the investigators took her statement this year. The formal affidavit runs more than 20 pages.

and still nothing from Lance Armstrong.

33 posted on 10/14/2012 5:24:24 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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It looks like the ghosts of Armstrong’s past bullying may be coming back to haunt him:

London (CNN) — London’s Sunday Times is considering suing Lance Armstrong over a libel case he brought against the newspaper over doping allegations which resulted in a costly payout.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/13/sport/armstrong-doping-sunday-times/index.html


34 posted on 10/14/2012 5:41:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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I have a little trouble believing a team that was cheating by doping would discuss their cheating in front of other people who weren’t part of it. It would take a lot of smarts, and an understanding of secrecy, to pull off a multi-year team-wide doping program, and that is the opposite of what is described by this woman.

And while I have no idea if Armstrong is guilty of anything or not, I firmly believe that you could get dozens of people to lie about something. That’s pretty much the standard practice of the elected democrats these days, even the “good ones”.

So I don’t find 20 “personal testimonies” much more compelling than 1. Firm evidence. The biggest problem the pro-doping-believer crowd has to overcome is the ability of an entire team to apparently thwart the active doping regime, WHILE almost every other team kept having their stars nailed.

I believe in American exceptionalism, but i don’t believe that Team Postal Service would have been uniquely qualified to beat the drug tests. And if it was this easy to do, no way Landis would have been caught.


39 posted on 10/14/2012 8:39:42 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Vision
Pretzels for the fan defenders of cheaters to help them with their logic.


95 posted on 10/15/2012 12:38:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Baynative; Ready4Freddy; Mom MD

Saw this today:
http://www.nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/49406637/ns/sports-cycling/


103 posted on 10/15/2012 1:07:58 PM PDT by luv2ski
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Here’s a link to an interview of Emma O’Reilly:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-15/interview-with-emma-oreilly/4310066

Part of the interview was used in the Australian Broadcasting Corporation television program “The World According to Lance”. Here’s a link to a webpage with that program. There are a few other videos on that page related to the television program as well.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/10/11/3608613.htm


132 posted on 10/16/2012 1:06:27 PM PDT by FreedomForce (Lesser Evil 2012)
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