Posted on 10/07/2012 12:20:20 PM PDT by Kartographer
Of what would your dark ages consist? Tell me and we’ll fix it.
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Power out for more than three years due to grid disruption or attack
Of what would your dark ages consist? Tell me and we’ll fix it.
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Power out for more than three years due to grid disruption or attack
I am so glad that I'm a single man. Life is much easier.
Back when the girls were young and I had a wife in the house, I had a 10 year supply of TP on hand at all times (for me, anyway, for them maybe a couple of years).
I still have sanitary napkins in bulk that the youngest sometimes comes by and raids. She claims my grand-daughter will use up the rest of them.
Soap, I can make, if required.
Romans used a natural sponge on a stick instead of TP. Never tried it, never intend to.
/johnny
OK. Here are multiple methods to put together to last three years.
LIGHT
Solar chargers, rechargeable batteries
L lights – (solar lights)
Jar candles
Oil lamps and lamp oil
COOKING
Canned heat and Sterno Stoves
Propane outdoor grill
Barbecue grill and charcoal
Japanese grill that uses 5-7 charcoal briquettes
Rocket Stove
Outdoor oven uses small propane bottles
Outdoor fireplace with rack for cooking
FOOD
Stored grocery store food, use first.
Long Term Professionally Stored food good for 20-25 years to use after grocery store food.
That list is basic. Personal supplies you know about.
The Rocket Stove, to me, since I have investigated that, would be essential to last three years or more, like forever. There is going to be biomass fuel for it - twigs, small limbs, etc. Takes such small amount of natural fuel to operate for max heat, it is the winner.
I can't speak to the subject past what I have already. I'm an outie, not an innie.
/johnny
“Power out for more than three years due to grid disruption or attack.”
Any personal hygiene concern is just “stock up”.
Suggestion for toilet paper when there is none: I don’t throw away big phone books when new ones come. Would hate to do it, but that is backup toilet paper.
Liquid soap is likely cheaper at dollar stores than anywhere else. Use liquid soap for everything, including shampoo if that runs out.
I let the ex calculate the logistics on that one for her and the girls.
One roll of the commercial John Wayne TP a month, and I'm good to go. ;)
10 years is 120 rolls.
/johnny
Free delivery, too.
Hmmm. I may just have to buy a 10 year supply.
/johnny
Feminine supplies - birdseye baby diapers, the unsewn kind, fold together (maybe cut in half, I can’t remember) and pin them inside underwear. When taking off to use a new one, immediately soap in cold water. If you wash them carefully, they work just fine.
TP - get a plastic ketchup bottle or similar device, wash the area instead of just using TP, and then dry off with old wash cloths which you wash frequently.
Dish soap - just store a lot! I stretch mine with water and often add white vinegar to the dish water.
One time, I put fresh TP in the three bathrooms, and after one week, I checked them, determined how much that was and got a total for a year. That was for husband and me.
Sent that total to a lady friend of mine and she said no way could she and her husband get by on that number.
Conclusion is, TP is an individual number for each person - no size fits all.
“Office Depot has Kleenex(r) Cottonelle(r) 2 ply case of 60 rolls for $59.99US.”
What does the “r” stand for? Is that the big rolls one finds in huge container in public bathroom? Or does the “r” means it’s regular rolls?
/johnny
They are regular, individually wrapped rolls. Think cheap hotel or hospital.
/johnny
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What do you do if it's the dead of winter? Like January in Minnesota?
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1. Bed pans - bedside commode - other toileting solutions you might think of, depending on the ability of the patient - and care giver
2. Plastic Sheeting/mattress protector
3. Adult diapers - start with some manufactured products, but think about the possibility that they may not be available at some point. Perhaps obtain some cotton flannel or soft cotton muslin to be able to make some
5. Baby Wipes - or possibly could make your own with some paper towels and a few drops of baby shampoo and lemon juice and water in a tupper ware container - Also consider having a pile of cheap washcloths on hand which also could be used for this purpose.
4. Face Tissues - But again consider that they may not be available at some point, so perhaps a small pile of handkerchiefs (or those cheap washcloths) might be in order
5. Extra pillows and pillow cases
6. Bath blanket or large soft beach towel(s)
7. Large bowl or basin
8. Disposable gloves
9. Baby powder (obtain the corn starch kind rather than the talcum powder kind)
10. Learn how to give a proper bed bath.
Rule of Thumb:
Go from clean to dirty. (In other words, wash the face first, then the cleaner parts of the body then the perineal area, continually following that rule - ie, avoid contaminating the cleaner parts of the body with your cloth that has gone over a dirty part. Corollary: clean the anus last!
If the patient is soiled by bowel movement, then certainly clean that first, THEN do your proper bed bath following the Rule of Thumb.
http://www.drugs.com/cg/how-to-give-a-bed-bath.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_6746745_nursing_-give-bed-bath.html
11. Learn how to make up a bed with a person in it.
http://www.drugs.com/cg/making-a-bed-with-a-person-in-it.html
There probably is more, but this might get your mind rolling in this direction to think of them.
In that case trench latrines would be miserable...
I would opt for the bucket composting method as described in “Humanure”. I used that method and it works admirably. The bucket toilet can be set up inside the house and then the buckets dumped outside in a compost bin/arrangement. Stuff of all kinds composts even in cold climates, just takes longer. If the crap is covered after each “deposit” in the bucket, and then when the bucket is dumped on the compost pile another shovel of composting material is put on it to cover it, it will have no odor at all.
I like the raw sawdust the best but chippershredded stuff works very well too. Even dirt.
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