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1 posted on 09/02/2012 6:53:38 PM PDT by westcoastwillieg
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Now there is nothing wrong with conservation but thinking it will solve anything is absurd—sometimes it can create more problems than it solves.

Their objective was not about solving anything. It was an attempt to add a created commodity to be bought and sold, so a 'few' could control what the rest of humanity could or could not do. Con artists selling a flimflam scam preaching 'fear'.

2 posted on 09/02/2012 7:01:55 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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This new learning amazes me, Sir Gorebore.

Explain to me again how taxes can be used to prevent climate change.


3 posted on 09/02/2012 7:04:51 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get.............Robert Heinlen


4 posted on 09/02/2012 7:19:38 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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CLIMATE CHANGE FRAUD: Global temperatures have been declining for 2000 years when you don't use the fraudulent data used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

The Tree Ring Data Scandal

New tree ring study shows 2000 years of cooling

Extreme weather is an integral part of the Earth’s climate

5 posted on 09/02/2012 7:23:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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Just wanted to comment on the ice age cycles. Ice cores reveal the temperature history from an oxygen isotope ratio. These ratios show the emergence of a 100,000 year ice age cycle that began about 1.5 million years ago, with the temperatures of the cold period of the cycle decreasing with each cycle for the first one million years. For the last 500,000 years, the temperatures during the cold periods have been similar (the temperature fluctuates, but it tends to be about 18 deg Fahrenheit on average less than the warm periods). The cold periods of the cycle last about 90,000 years, while the warm periods 10,000. The current inter-glacier period, called the Holocene, has lasted longer than any recent interglacial period. Considering this, and the repetitive nature of the cycle, we are likely on the verge of another ice age.

Another concern. In the midst of an ice age, a significant portion of North America will not be arable.

I live in a northern state. Most of the time, it is not possible to survive where I live. During the coldest period of an ice age, our summers are likely similar to our current winters, while the winters rarely getting above freezing. The summers are not sufficiently long or warm to melt the ice, so it builds up over time.

Before the emergence of the 100,000 year cycle, a 40,000 year cycle was dominant, with the coldest part of the cycle not as extreme as the 100,000 cycle. In other words, the earth has essentially cooled over the last several million years.

Most of the theories regarding the cause of ice ages do not correlate well with the observations (including Milankovich Cycles). A more recent theory involving the sun, which does not explain the root cause but does provide a theoretical link to the sun, has been almost ignored: http://mason.gmu.edu/~rehrlich/Diffusion_waves.pdf


18 posted on 09/02/2012 10:24:21 PM PDT by jasonandtheb
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