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"The New York Times has a review of a recent book by travel writer Chuck Thompson which argues that the rest of the country would be better off if the South seceded. In the nineteenth century, the main advocates of secession were southern supporters of slavery, though a few northerners flirted with the idea too. In recent years, ironically, those supporting the idea are almost as likely to be northern liberals as southern conservatives.

Whether Thompson’s argument is correct depends in part on your political ideology. If your overriding objective is to have a more left-wing federal government, it’s hard to deny that southern secession would accomplish that goal for the remainder of the United States. The nonsouthern electorate is significantly to the left of the present total US voting population (which of course includes the South).

1 posted on 08/25/2012 10:16:01 PM PDT by djone
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No but the world would be better off without so damned many leftists.


2 posted on 08/25/2012 10:19:41 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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I think the south would be better off without the north.


4 posted on 08/25/2012 10:22:55 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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If Obama is re-elected, I hope secession becomes a serious topic of discussion. Even if he is defeated, I would like to see it explored.

Neither side can stand each other. Might be time for an amicable split.

Instead of North / South though, I would like to see the Coasts split off along with most of the major cities throughout the rest of the country.


5 posted on 08/25/2012 10:23:35 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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The question is backwards. Because the South WOULD be better off without the North. . . .


6 posted on 08/25/2012 10:24:40 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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I have often wondered... If the South was evil, and the North was a bastion of morality, then why didn’t the North WANT to secede? Why would the North have had this great desire to remain associated with slaveholding evildoers? Easy, it’s the same impulse that remains today: Power.


7 posted on 08/25/2012 10:24:51 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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“If your overriding objective is to have a more left-wing federal government, it’s hard to deny that Southern secession would accomplish that goal for the remainder of the United States.”

The north would wind up eating their own.

Many would come scurrying across the border to the South.


8 posted on 08/25/2012 10:36:08 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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What a POS piece by some snotty nosed yankee, with a small y.
No doubt, he is also a Marxist Obot.


9 posted on 08/25/2012 10:37:45 PM PDT by AlexW
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The south would have to find a way to defend itself from the north’s economic and cultural collapse. Build a wall to stop the desperate hordes from bringing their economic and cultural decay south. Have a Democrat deportation program.


11 posted on 08/25/2012 10:49:19 PM PDT by pallis
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The South has been saving the Union from the democrats for decades.

If anything, the South would be much better off without the damn liberal North.


12 posted on 08/25/2012 10:52:54 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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Well racists and leftists go hand in hand. DNC was the klan party and were designed to terrorize blacks and southern Republicans. Maybe we’d all be better off.


13 posted on 08/25/2012 10:55:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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We don’t need tyranny or secession, we just need a reinvigorated tenth amendment. The Constitution is the moderate, reasonable middle ground.


14 posted on 08/25/2012 11:00:06 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Mind of the South, by W. J. Cash, 1941.
17 posted on 08/26/2012 3:39:04 AM PDT by jamaksin
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Nothing would make me happier than for the South to seceed. Seriously, conservatives get the South and Liberals the North. Wish it could be done.


18 posted on 08/26/2012 4:22:38 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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This question is so ridiculous I can’t even come up with an answer. Let’s write an article titled “Would the Country Be Better Without African-Americans” and see how that plays out. Who are these people? I will say this; if California and New York want us to leave, I’m all for it. By God, we tried to leave one time and everybody got all upset.


19 posted on 08/26/2012 4:26:10 AM PDT by suthener
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"Would the north be better off with out the south?"

LET'S FIND OUT!

22 posted on 08/26/2012 6:04:55 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Heaven awaits us! That's the best part of it all!)
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The South would be better off without the North.


23 posted on 08/26/2012 6:26:27 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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The only problem is the West and most of the Midwest would go with the South leaving the Leftist to starve and freeze in their incompetently governed enclaves in the North East and West Coast.


27 posted on 08/26/2012 8:15:02 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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not the right question.

it is not a north / south issue. it is urban (commie) vs rural (constitutionalists). Mostly rural states, would be immensely better off without the commie urban dominated states. Simply don’t care about the future of the urbanites.

Specifically, Texas would be better off without the drag of the commies and if we seceded, I would hope and pray, that the vast majority of the rat infestation would leave for their commie utopia.


28 posted on 08/26/2012 9:06:52 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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The south would probably be better off without the north.


35 posted on 08/26/2012 8:38:42 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: djone; Pelham; mrsmel; Black Agnes; blam; vetvetdoug; Salgak; dixiechick2000; AlexW; ...
Are you the idiot who wrote this crap or your buddy rocky down below?

I sat by my neighborhood pool (Williamson County TN) today listening to two old Yankee biddies

usual old Yankee womyn...gray bobbed hair...thick...mandals...no make up...very masculine

going on and on about how great Obamacare was for everyone to hear and then how stupid right wingers were for opposing it and how rightwingers when exposed were never around poor people...and so forth..standard Northern liberal progressive garbage

when they finally left...the dozen or so of us left...mostly southern with 2 Michiganders who are smart...applauded

s.

they will be the ruin of the South...their presence has already screwed Florida except when we get lucky, are a definite threat to Virginia, North Carolina and even make life in metro Nashville politically progressive

the question should be why are so many white Northerners so damned progressive in addition to being rude and sour and demanding..especially when they come down here...are they like announcing themselves...feeling outta the progressive pond or something

If I could sell my home...I tried...I would move more rural to get away from them.

Northerners I meet who get it...without question...Indiana rural folks(honorary Southerners), white Detroit refugees, rural Michiganders, and other exceptions...and they are welcome but I fear most non southern newcomers are not social conservatives and lean Dem...just from observing and looking at NOVA, Metro Atlanta, the Piedmont and huge swaths of Florida's east and west coasts and Mouseland

I wish we could hand pick ya’ll I swear

you know I went and read the article again...what a bunch of crap...what do Yankees have wings and play harps?

are you so daft to truly believe that garbage...you saved us from ourselves more or less?

Will someone please explain to me what makes Yankees such insufferably arrogant egotistical snobs?

The South has risen because you damaged yourselves up north thru purely self inflicted wounds and we went GOP because the GOP became the de facto party of social conservatism after LBJ went mad and Nixon and others...John Tower in a large way saw the opening of where to go now.

All that social engineering you are self congratulating over in your screed has turned our inner cities now into the same cess pools you abandoned up north last generation to come down here and I guess if we don't stop you, you'll try to screw up what we have left here.

How old is the writer of this hot mess?

38 posted on 08/26/2012 9:31:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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