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My thoughts on the new "Paterno" book by Joe Posnanski (25 year photographer of the football team)
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Posted on 08/25/2012 3:54:09 PM PDT by FlJoePa

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1 posted on 08/25/2012 3:54:19 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Its a shame that with so much success, Joe will be remembered for this failing. He gave many young men a lesson in character and then failed his own.


2 posted on 08/25/2012 3:58:51 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: FlJoePa

Thanks for posting this.


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4 posted on 08/25/2012 4:06:00 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: FlJoePa

The very sad thing about all this is the dam NCAA punished the community, and they PUNISHED THE KIDS for the whole debacle.
What the hell did the community and the college kids do to deserve this?


5 posted on 08/25/2012 4:07:52 PM PDT by crz
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To: Baynative

You’ll have to provide me some sort of proof that Joe “failed his own”. What exactly do you mean by that?

If anything you have to offer comes from the freeh report summary, don’t bother. It is absolute garbage.


6 posted on 08/25/2012 4:11:09 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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7 posted on 08/25/2012 4:12:51 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: FlJoePa

Time could tell it was worse.


8 posted on 08/25/2012 4:15:31 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I used to want to change the world. Now, I want to stop the world from changing me.)
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To: FlJoePa
Thanks for posting the article.
Bruce Kurtz PSU class of 83
9 posted on 08/25/2012 4:18:19 PM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: crz

>>The very sad thing about all this is the dam NCAA punished the community, and they PUNISHED THE KIDS for the whole debacle.
What the hell did the community and the college kids do to deserve this?<<

That is the same question people ask about the children of illegal aliens and other criminals. Penn State failed its responsibilities and the kids suffer.

The alternative would have been no punishment at all, since by definition, any punishment would have punished the community and the kids.


10 posted on 08/25/2012 4:25:46 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

So, this guy (the photographer) was in on it too? Have you read the book? Or the quotes from it?

Oh, it could get worse - but not for Joe Paterno.

It could get worse for the b.o.t., the sitting president (who actually GAVE js those keys to the Lasch building), the second mile (what’s left of it), the various state and local agencies that continually allowed js access to kids. js was allowed to adopt 7 kids and foster dozens of others. Tell me what role Joe Paterno had in any of that?

It could also get much, much worse for the sitting governor. He is in this up to his neck and has 600,000 PSU alums that aren’t big fans right now

espn and the ever reliable louis freeh have already written Joe Paterno’s narrative. And way too many people on this forum have gobbled it up as if it was biscuits and gravy.


11 posted on 08/25/2012 4:25:54 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: crz
There was plenty of overreaction here. Yes, it is a serious matter and thank goodness the perpetrator is being punished. But in the process it has become a witch hunt and a number of people have suffered as a result.

We are never going to know for sure what Paterno was thinking — why he did or didn't do the things he is accused of. Yet, that hasn't stopped so many people from rushing to judgment. I thought in this country, a person is innocent until proven guilty. Paterno was tried and convicted in the media based on a highly suspect report with little if any tangible evidence. Has America sunk so low that we have thrown out the Constitution just to mount a lot of heads on a wall?

12 posted on 08/25/2012 4:27:18 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: FlJoePa

The reason Sandusky got away with it for so long is simple - he got others in on it. He participated in a ring of powerful people who passed the kids around. And in that way, he set up his insurance policy - not just against being caught, but against even being stopped.

Did JoePa know? Probably. He ran Penn State, and he couldn’t get rid of an assistant coach he didn’t like? Bull. He was TOLD he couldn’t get rid of Sandusky, when Sandusky sought help from his powerful “friends.” Sandusky figured he’d eventually be head coach. So, JoePa knew, but he also was trapped, like everyone else who knew.

Sandusky’s Ring of powerful people is what needs to be investigated. ALL of those creatures need to be found, dug up and exposed.

Problem is, who are THEY connected to? How deep does this rabbit hole go?

Especially if it involves rituals?

Looked at that way, it’s amazing Sandusky was exposed at all.


13 posted on 08/25/2012 4:28:11 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: FlJoePa

I didn’t read the book but I looked at the picture.


14 posted on 08/25/2012 4:33:42 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I used to want to change the world. Now, I want to stop the world from changing me.)
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To: Talisker

So Joe Paterno was involved in a child sex ring? Is that what you’re telling me? Is that what you believe? WTF is wrong with you?


15 posted on 08/25/2012 4:33:46 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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“his generation did not comprehend”

A friend of mine and I were discussing Paterno situation. Then we started talking about our own fathers. Both of the Paterno generation. We both agreed that neither of them would have probably understood the gravity of the situation. Sure there were “queers”, but child abuse was not discussed. No doubt it happened...but not discussed.

I’m sure not excusing Paterno on any level, but this does make some sense to me. He died before facing charges and was stripped posthumously of his titles. Does it help all those young men? No, but what punishment is left for a dead man?


16 posted on 08/25/2012 4:40:40 PM PDT by berdie
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“Sandusky fooled EVERYBODY.”

Nonsense.

Sandusky was caught several times by Penn State employees. The administration knew & lied to a grand jury. Paterno knew & did nothing. His death is the only thing that kept him out of the witness or defendant chair.

The author is rationalizing 25 wasted years of photographing an enabler of a child molester. And that planned coffee table book of Paterno Football Pics is down the drain.

17 posted on 08/25/2012 4:41:12 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: FlJoePa

I am so glad that Joe did not know anything about the sodomy in the shower. His statue should go back up.


18 posted on 08/25/2012 4:42:51 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Talisker

Nothing happens in a vacuum, so you may be correct. But do you have any evidence ?


19 posted on 08/25/2012 4:45:32 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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