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The only gun I own is a WWII Walther P-38 that I inherited from my father. It's a pretty good gun for target shooting, but lately I've been thinking of getting something more suited to self defense and home protection. I'm planning to get a CCW permit and am trying to decide what a good handgun would be for CC and home protection. I'd also like something that would be fun to shoot at the range. A couple a very different guns I've been looking at are a Glock and a S&W Model 60. I know there are some gun aficionados here so wanted to ask for some Freeper recommendations and or thought about the aforementioned guns.
1 posted on 08/18/2012 6:11:40 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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http://www.mouseguns.com/PocketAutoComparison.pdf

there are some great ones listed at the above link. Saves tons of time.

I advise a REAL safety (not a trigger safety) for concealed carry. There are several to choose from.


2 posted on 08/18/2012 6:17:14 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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Get the gun you are most comfortable wearing and therefore most likely to carry. A gun that’s great on the range but too heavy or bulky to wear all day long is a gun that’s going to end up in your gun safe.


3 posted on 08/18/2012 6:22:37 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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I like Glocks and carry them myself (either a Model 30 or a Model 36 depending on time of year—the slimmer 36 is easier to conceal with summer wear), because Glocks fit my hands well and I shoot them well. There are many good brands, and you’ll probably go through a few different ones before you settle on your best choice. I realize that it’s preferable to make the best choice right out of the gate (the damn things are expensive) but it didn’t work that way for me. As I gained experience I made the necessary adjustments.


4 posted on 08/18/2012 6:23:04 PM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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There is a very important question to ask yourself about concealed carry that I found out through experience. The question is; what WILL you carry? I have one gun that I keep in my truck when I cannot carry (at work, Springfield Armory XDm .45), one in an inside the waistband holster when appropriate (Para 1911 and it took some getting used to), and a Ruger LCP when I can’t carry inside the waistband. Frankly, I’m not too happy with any of them and I’m thinking about the new Sprinfield Armory XDs. The LCP is too small and the others too big. The point I’m trying to make is, if you’re going to buy a gun for concealed carry, make sure you’re comfortable carrying it.


5 posted on 08/18/2012 6:23:53 PM PDT by suthener
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It depends on so much...but here is one that I find comfortable as it fits easily into a pocket...the S&W Airweight .38

100_0145

6 posted on 08/18/2012 6:26:17 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Actually your P-38 should conceal fairly well with a good fitting holster. The grip is not overly large and that is often the part which shows.

I have a Walther PP which fits in my inside jacket pocket without printing on the outside. It is not as quick to get to as a holster but often one has ample time to get to the gun.

Mine is in .32 but most would say get a .380.


7 posted on 08/18/2012 6:26:26 PM PDT by yarddog
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A good starting point is any gun whose caliber starts in .4


8 posted on 08/18/2012 6:29:36 PM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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Go to a range that has rentals available. Try several different models and calibers until you find the one that ‘clicks’ with you. Make sure it is something that you can carry all day, every day.

It is a very personal choice, like a spouse. Choose the wrong one and you will be out of money and looking for another one.


9 posted on 08/18/2012 6:30:17 PM PDT by 11Bush
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Take fit and feel into consideration more so than "cheap ammo." If you have a large, or small, hand make sure it's a comfortable fit and packs well also. Spend the required time firing as many different brands and styles. You truly could be making a life or death purchase so choose wisely.

I spent over a year and tested more than a dozen different combinations till i got the one i liked and that was most practical for me.

Starting a thread a FR, is a great place to start. This place is loaded with brains and talent and will help guide you, but the final decision is yours.

INBN.

10 posted on 08/18/2012 6:31:25 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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When I shot competitively, I used a tuned-up 1911 and loved it. When I go to the range now, I take my SIG .45 if I'm by myself or a Ruger .22 if I'm with the kids. When I hunted deer with a handgun, I used a .44 Magnum Ruger Blackhawk with a 7 1/2 barrel; not exactly concealable.

My carry gun is an old Colt Detective Special, much like your hypothetical S&W 60. If TSHTF I'd rather have a .45, but in the power vs concealability tradeoff a 1.5-lb .38+P that in a good holster vanishes behind my strong-side hip beats the 3-lb .45 that I left at home.

11 posted on 08/18/2012 6:35:24 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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Start packing the pistol you have wherever you can for a few days, even if it is only at your own house and yard, it may help you decide.

You might find that you prefer a tiny, light weight pistol because carrying is a hassle and annoying, or perhaps not.


12 posted on 08/18/2012 6:37:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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This really is a highly subjective personal preference, but I recommend a Glock 19. Its got a 15 round magazine but its small and concealable. Glocks are accurate, reliable, nearly indestructible, simple to field strip and clean, and reasonably priced. Try one out at your local range.


13 posted on 08/18/2012 6:39:50 PM PDT by Astronaut
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The guys who suggest you buy what you will actually carry are right.

My choice is the .22 S&W auto.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_785503_-1_757765_757752_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

I have other weapons that I like, and they are great fun, but in general...I don’t carry them. Carry the .22LR loaded with CCI Stingers.


14 posted on 08/18/2012 6:41:12 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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Expect that you will go through a *lot* of guns and holsters before you find the right combination that carries comfortably, conceals well on your body and with your normal mode of dress, and yet allows rapid access to your gun.

Oh, and don't carry a valuable antique or a family heirloom. If, God forbid, you ever do have to draw your gun, expect that the cops investigating the "incident" will seize and impound your gun, and if you ever do manage to get it back, it will look like it was stored in the septic tank while in police possession.

15 posted on 08/18/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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For the home front, I would suggest a nice S&W Model 10 or 15. There are write-ups on the late Stephen Camp’s site; “Hi-Power and handguns”, about home defense pistols and revolvers.

.38 specials in a four inch barreled revolver do NOT have any noticeable recoil, (I am sensitive to that at times), and they are cheap to obtain ammunition.

** Any ‘self-defense-designed’ ammunition is over-priced!***

For a CCW, the model 60, loaded with semi-wadcutters - NOT plus-p hollowpoints, will do wondrously well, not knock your hand around, and get you back on target, easily.

There are two guys on YOUTUBE that I suggest you watch:

hickok45 and usafmiller

both have a lot of information, and miller shows you what an old model 10 can do.


16 posted on 08/18/2012 6:45:28 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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The Walther is an excellent carry gun. Use it for that, and get a 12-guage pump shotgun (like a Mossberg 500) for home protection.

Handguns are inferior to long guns. The only thing that have going for them is portability.

You don't need portability in a home-defense weapon.

19 posted on 08/18/2012 6:48:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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12 gauge, with 00 shot.

Under baggy clothing.


23 posted on 08/18/2012 7:02:46 PM PDT by lurk
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The new Springfield XDS has gotten a lot of attention and converts. It’s small enough to be a pocket gun, yet has 7 rounds of .45.


24 posted on 08/18/2012 7:03:01 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I recommend a Glock G19. But like others said it’s subjective. I shoot my Glocks well and feel like with their magazine capacity I don’t need a spare mag. Personally, I carry my G23 most of the time. Sometimes I carry my Springfield .45 and do carry an extra mag then. The best advice I can give is rent and shoot any gun you plan on carrying before you buy it. I have big hands so the Glock double stack magazine is not an issue for me. Some people with smaller hands feel the double stack Glocks are “chunky”. With modern ammo if you do your part the 9 mm is going to be fine as a self defense gun. I like the .40 and .45 just on the belief that more is almost always better. I know .380s are becoming popular again but I think the .380 is marginal at best for self defense. I have a Walther PPK/S and it sits in the safe unless I’m taking it to the range. Another gun worth looking at is the Kahr CM9, or PM9 for a couple of hundred bucks more. They don’t have much in the way of magazine capacity but they are extremely concealable. Just my opinions, YMMV.


26 posted on 08/18/2012 7:06:27 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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It is hard to beat a Model 60, get a pocket holster, drop it in your pocket, and go. A Model 60 goes off every time you pull the trigger, even if you forget to clean it for a while, Which I do regularly.


27 posted on 08/18/2012 7:06:27 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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