The EPA responded that it requires that retail stations with blender pumps either dispense E15 from a dedicated hose and nozzle if able or, in the case of E15 and E10 being dispensed from the same hose, require that at least four gallons of fuel be purchased to prevent vehicles and engines with smaller fuel tanks from being exposed to gasoline-ethanol blended fuels containing greater than 10 percent ethanol.
1 posted on
08/12/2012 1:02:12 PM PDT by
djone
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To: djone
I don’t know of any motorcycle that takes 4 gallons.
To: djone
The only country in the world that burns food for fuel....utter stupidity.....
3 posted on
08/12/2012 1:11:31 PM PDT by
nikos1121
To: djone
In honor of the EPA I just dumped 4 gallons of gas on the ground. I am sure there will be those to say the world will now come to an end and we will all die.
4 posted on
08/12/2012 1:13:15 PM PDT by
CodeToad
(History says our end is near.)
To: djone
Okay, so I pull up to a “certain gas pump” and pump one gallon of E15 and then stop. Now what? Will I be charged for four gallons?
What an incredibly ignorant regulation.
6 posted on
08/12/2012 1:15:32 PM PDT by
upchuck
("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
To: djone
So they will flock to local airports to get 100LL while it is still available before the EPA FUBAR's that too, of which they are on track to do.
The alternative is racing fuels or find a State that doesn't use Ethanol and get some exported from their ( Omaha ?), I hear there are some...
This maybe a hidden anti- 2 Stroke move, as those that still mix fuel and oil need to use it w/in 2 weeks in order for it to be "Fresh"... They usually make it in small batches, maybe less than 4 gallons...
7 posted on
08/12/2012 1:16:07 PM PDT by
taildragger
(( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
To: djone
8 posted on
08/12/2012 1:20:59 PM PDT by
damncat
To: djone
Work-around...5 or 10 gallon gas cans.
Drive to the gas station in a car or truck, fill up gas can/cans and then drive back home and fill up the tank.
Furthermore, who drives an ATV to the gas station anyway?
Many are already filled in the manner I just described.
Idiots are in charge.
9 posted on
08/12/2012 1:26:25 PM PDT by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: djone
We should have evicted all 535 the day they limited the amount of water I can flush. Can anyone tell me something that won’t be regulated 20 years from now (if we don’t have massive turnover in Congress and wind-down EPA, etc.)?
10 posted on
08/12/2012 1:26:34 PM PDT by
Thom Pain
(U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
To: djone
Fuel for small engines goes bad after a couple of weeks. What are we supposed to do with the fuel that goes bad or the fuel left over after our chainsaw or lawnmower blows up?
11 posted on
08/12/2012 1:27:38 PM PDT by
mountainlion
(I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
To: djone
Arguing this with Obama’s EPA will be an exercise in futility. It’s time to get Obama out, and have some serious discussions about changing the EPA, starting with an end to ethanol in gasoline.
12 posted on
08/12/2012 1:35:07 PM PDT by
pallis
To: djone
There it is...
Not only do we find it unacceptable for the EPA to mandate that everyone including our members buy minimum amounts of gas, but the EPA answer simply wont work because of the sizes of many motorcycle and ATV gas tanks and the fact that off-highway riders take containers of gas with them on their trips, and most times those containers are much smaller than four gallons, Allard said. And this... The EPA has no business mandating how much gasoline Americans have to buy when filling up at the pump. What if a rider doesnt have a motorcycle with a four gallon tank? Or if someone wants to fill a canister for their lawnmower or outboard boat engine, but it only holds 2 or 3 gallons? Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) said today. Idiots are in charge at the EPA.
13 posted on
08/12/2012 1:35:20 PM PDT by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: djone
Like many Americans I own a weed eater. I have a two gallon gas can that I use
only for that device due to the need to mix in two stroke motor oil.
Will the EPA mandate that two gallon cans can't be filled at a gas station?
14 posted on
08/12/2012 1:40:14 PM PDT by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Nachum; steelyourfaith
17 posted on
08/12/2012 1:52:43 PM PDT by
Army Air Corps
(Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
To: djone
So what happens to the young person or the poor short of cash and close to home that needs a little gas to get home?
20 posted on
08/12/2012 1:55:41 PM PDT by
bmwcyle
(Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
To: djone
I think there should be even MORE EPA regulations along these lines. That’s why I’m going to either stay home on election day or vote for an obscure third party candidate. I’ll do anything to make sure that Romney isn’t elected. /sarc
To: djone
If they can mandate us to buy health care, they can mandate us to buy gasoline.
24 posted on
08/12/2012 2:31:49 PM PDT by
lowbridge
(Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
To: djone
Again, their asinine ideas hurt the poor. I am sure there are many people, especially now with gas prices can only afford a gallon or two to get themselves to work until they get paid again.
25 posted on
08/12/2012 2:36:10 PM PDT by
riri
(Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
To: djone
I wonder if local fire ordinances might require special storage for portable containers of gasoline greater than one or two gallons?
Unless you have a flex fuel vehicle, no car maker I know approves of using anything more than 10% ethanol blends and even the 10% blend is disaster in small engines. Has anyone at the EPA looked at the carbon footprint required to produce 1 gallon of ethanol? Ethanol is nothing but an expensive farm subsidy program and has done absolutely nothing to reduce our dependance on oil. Unfortunately many farm state members of Congress have become willing whores for the ethanol pimps.
To: djone
Sounds to me like the EPA (cursed be their name and may a million camels stampede over their genitals) has admitted that E15 DOES destroy engines — without actually admitting it.
Hey, Mitt/Paul — add these morons to the list of bureaucracies to be dismantled, right behind DOE (BOTH of tbem), IRS, Labor, Commerce, most of State, and most of the rest of the alphabet soup sinecures for the private sector UNEMPLOYABLES in Malfunction Junction.
To: djone
If you need gas with no alcohol, just wash it with a little water. The alcohol goes into the water, and the remaining gas is actually dryer than when you started. The only drawback is that you might lose a couple octane numbers.
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