It is this aircraft that the Smithsonian is restoring.
When completed, the Ho-229 will look something like this:
Posted on 08/07/2012 9:25:37 PM PDT by LucyT
Sixty-five years after a UFO allegedly crashed in Roswell, New Mexico, a retired Air Force official has spoken out to say that not only did the shocking incident really happen – but it happened twice. an unusual object fell from the sky and crashed to the ground in Roswell.
Military authorities issued a press release after the shocking incident, saying: ‘The many rumours regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc.’
But, just 24 hours later, the military retracted their earlier statement and claimed the object they had first thought was a 'flying disc' was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch.
The media and the public accepted the explanation without question. Since then, conspiracy theorists and officials such as French have called into question the military's line on the incident.
‘There were actually two crashes at Roswell, which most people don't know,’..."
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Quix was not banned or anything, just asked to keep the UFO stuff off this site so as to not risk us being called nutjobs (HA!)
I still get private messages occasionally from Quix with all this stuff, and I love it
Oh, and I believe Bob Lazaar when he says he worked on reverse engineering UFO’s at Groom Lake (no one heard of Groom Lake before him- it is right next to, or inside Area 51)
Why not? it’s too much fun so I choose to
Area 51 IS Groom Lake...
Did you mean to say PENETRATE perhaps?
i thought Groom Lake was a facility INSIDE area 51 (different than the main base in Area 51)
SInce my current work is inertial fusion, you have no idea of what you are talkig about.
I will give you an example of the falacy of your thinking: Modern physics had enough information and tools as early as 1930 to successfully produce a laser....this invention did not occur until 1959 with Gordon Gould’s work (though one might say otherwise since his was a maser).
I did not say that you could not make a directed energy weapon with the available bits in the 40s....What I said was it was not done. Your point about EMP is meaningless unless you are suggesting that the US deployed a nucear device to bring down a UFO.
Look read more about this man’s claims and the air force officers who were there at the time. This man os old and truly delusional. You can wish all you want but this did not happen.
It is this aircraft that the Smithsonian is restoring.
When completed, the Ho-229 will look something like this:
I hope you do not "do" electronics warfare for a living these days. Frankly, you do not know what the heck you are talking about.
A corner reflector is just that, a freaking reflector! It is very useful to enhance small radar return objects like sailboats and buoys (why you see them on masts so often, duh) and as markers for radar ranges. Because they have a very predictable sigma, they are very useful for RCS measurement calibration. They also have the convenient feature of returning that strong reflection over wide incoming angles, unlike a flat plate, so positioning is not critical.
And yes, I did spend decades really doing this stuff. What you might be confusing things with as far as focus is a parabolic reflector, another thing entirely, and part of an antenna or telescope normally. Such a thing needs precise aiming, so unlikely to be carried up by balloon with no means of angular positioning.
I dimly recall Jasik showing a simple monopole mounted in a corner reflector as a moderate gain antenna, but never saw one in 45 years in the business. Too many other reflector types work far better, no one bothered.
Actually I do, although I may not have articulated it well. I'm perfectly familiar with the purpose of a corner reflector. In martime settings such as the one in the second image, the purpose of the reflector is to produce a much larger radar signature when swept. For a small civilian craft, that would be likely used to make itself more likely to be noticed by larger ships' radar, so as to help avoid collision.
An example of a use in electronic warfare in a martime setting is similar to deployment of chaff, where you deploy the reflector away from the ship in the hope that the oversized radar signature of the reflector draws away an inbound missile using active radar homing.
I may not know what purpose the (likely) corner reflector in the first image was put to, but looking at the debris, it appears to be the remnants of such a device or something similar.
Or are you saying that the junk in the first image is instead actually the leftovers of a crashed alien craft?
Meh
"That's because the "UFO" debris found actually was the remnant of a crashed device called a "corner reflector" that was being used to detect, at long-range, Soviet nuclear blasts"
One thing about FR, some of the damndest experts show up from time to time here........
You win. Bye.
Ummm... OOPS! Yes, I sure did... Thanks for the correction. :)
I was falling asleep on the KB when I posted.... You have a good point about GL being part of ‘51.. I believe the runways used the lake area since it was so flat... I could be wrong :p
You may be right- But I still get private mails on here from Quix- with all the UFO stuff (but I love it)
The last one was a just a coupe of weeks ago- I was not sure if Quix was banned or not, or just asked to stop posting the UFO stuff
Anyone can private message Quix if you want to receive emails about stuff like this
Two things I don’t get about your ongoing posts:
(1) That you still imply that I think he is telling the truth about a UFO shot.
(2) That because your knowledge of directed energy systems that you work with (or whatever other future resume enhancements you will now claim), implies that you knew what the United States was experimenting with in the 1940’s.
After all, intertial confinement hasn’t even hit the more out than in point yet. Suppose to this year, but isn’t that the case every year?
Let’s separate fact from the questionable here:
What this guy claims about the weapon used (ie., directed energy weapon of some sort), was quite plausible and even more than likely existed in some form or another in 1947. I have no factual proof, but the equipment and theory was available.
I have given you my reasons for assigning “coocoo” to the guy’s story. Our advanced disruption systems still can’t take out hardened systems (we even harden against air burst nuclear now, if you are in that semiconductor sector). A craft on a flight here from somewhere in the universe would not be even tickled by even our latest directed energy weapons.
Finally, I sincerely doubt your work in Inertial Confinement Fusion gives you information about secret technical projects were in motion during 1947, or what splinter projects even came off of those thereafter.
And that’s the crux of the matter. That weapon could have existed. I just agree it wouldn’t have brought down a UFO. That is where we will disagree until you post the top secret classified documents that say, “we didn’t do this in those years, nor before”. And I surely hope you wouldn’t do that even if you DID have access to such documents.
Ie., this boils down to: you and I both are conjecturing, but you want me to accept your conjecture as gospel fact.
I hope this is clear as premium russian vodka for you.
you have misunderstood much of what I wrote...more’s the shame. Having worked on several projects that carried classification levels I am limited in what I can describe of my knowledge base. I will agree with you that the guy is fruit loops——kind of doesn;t matter why.I agree with you that biuts and parts and theory all existed in the 40s for such a weapon.....But to suggest that that implies such a weapon existed is silly in its logic. Moreover I am deeply offended that you think so little of my honor and integrity as to suggest that I should post documents that are not supposed to be disseminated in the manner you suggest. I took an oath long ago and I will continue to abide by it.
he passed away a while back.
jesse handled material from the crash (I believe his father in in that picture) and was adamant that it was not what you say (he eventually was in contact with all the balloons theorized). He posted here about it periodically on these type threads.
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