Electronic Armageddon (video)

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[djf]

I watched a very interesting video last night. Electronic Armageddon, created by National Geographic.

There are a lot of interesting interviews with Air Defense people, Electronic engineers, Food and Agricultural industries.

It's an hour long or so show split into three parts:

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Df0qwFxN4&feature=related

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBWyXDJ9J74

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NEhZHWGRg

Good reason to by a beater '64 Dodge!!

[JRandomFreeper]

Candles can be made of tallow if wax isn't available (bee's wax or petrolum wax). Field expedient lamps with almost any kind of oil are easier.

I can drive a buggy. I've built a spinning wheel. I can make a buggy. I can make a loom. Operating one is woman's work, along with spinning, but I can teach them how to do it.

But why bother. Even if there was an emp, there's enough junk laying around I'd be generating 'lectricity in a day or two, and lightbulbs will still work.

Having built a cabin in the mountains and lived off grid for 2 years, I can testify that it sucks. Bigtime.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

When you let the magic smoke out of the chip, it's dead. ;)

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

I don't have a microwave, perish the thought, but I do have a few old-fashioned metal file cabinets that just happen to be bonded and grounded, and I tested them with the megger.

/johnny

[Waywardson]

HA HA HA. THAT is old old OLD school. I’d forgotten it.

[BobL]

“An EMP is the game changer. We build a house of cards and it WILL fall.”

Well it doesn’t have to fall, just like we don’t have to get conquered by another country. But yes, we’re not doing a whole bunch (or more precisely, we’re not doing jack) to protect against an attack...so yea, we’ll be in a hell of a mess when that happens.

[patton]

“I only wish someone would detonate one away from our mainland, say near Hawaii - and we could find out once and for all what the threat is.”

Good one, Bob.

I have a book around here, somewhere - “The Effects of Nuclear Weapons”, DOE, 1975, I think. Rather interesting reading, if I could remember where I put it.

[djf]

I doubt one in ten thousand have your experience, your skills will be very much in demand if SHTF.

Me, I’ll just do nickel and dime stuff. Small engines, whatever.

Remember, there will be tens of thousands of cars out of gas that still have very good batteries and alternators in them. Use your imagination!!

[JRandomFreeper]

Diodes are likely to be blown in the alternators. They are after all, PN junctions.

Remember generators and relay regulators?

Batteries should be fine.

I'll manage. I've been winding coils (frequency specific) since I was 10.

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

The unclassified 1977 version is available at this site

/johnny

[editor-surveyor]

This would be remarkably easy to prevent with a simple relay that switches fron ‘on’ to ‘off’ when energized, placed from the alternator output to frame ground.

This would automatically ‘ground’ both sides of the diode when the engine is not running.

[JRandomFreeper]

Most folks won't do that. You are correct that if you ground both sides of the diode (bonding) they shouldn't suffer any effect from EMP if the alternator isn't running.

How you do that when you are driving the vehicle and both sides can't be grounded? I can think of a way or two, but that's a more difficult problem.

We're facing the same kind of thing with the power infrastructure. There are ways to prevent the damage, but it's gonna cost money and require work.

/johnny

[piroque]

For the candle you may want to try this

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-an-Everlasting-Candle

How to Make an Everlasting Candle: 5 steps - wikiHow www.wikihow.com/​Make-an-Everlasting-Candle The Crisco candle isn't really everlasting but it has been known to burn continuously for 45 days. The flame is likely to be smaller than a regular wax candle because ...

[Eye of Unk]

I think any EMP attack on America will be a fabricated one using devices at or slightly above ground level. Very limited in effects and range.

But just the panic alone would achieve results.

And of course Obama will blame the Iranians.

Would be nice to know the current inventory of all US EMP weapons available. It would be interesting indeed if some were “unaccounted” for.

[patton]

Thank you for that - been looking for that book for years. I think one of my buddies swiped it.

But, given the mess of books in this building, I ain’t really sure.

When I took the AFVAB, they say “You can be anything you want - except a clerk.”

And they were right.

[antisocial]

Find a bee keeper and use beeswax.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

How much would it cost to turn your entire home into a Faraday cage to protect all your cell phones, computers and other sensitive electronics from EMP or a solar storm?

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Come to think of it, that was a dumb novice question. Without functioning cell towers, functioning cell phones would be fancy paperweights, anyhow.

Likewise, can’t do very much with a computer without internet, except for personal or family items.

[PA Engineer]

Would that really work?

I was looking for the automobile study that was done. I'm sorry I could not find it. Generally there was no predicting how cars would respond. Some vehicles had no ill effects. Some of them had accessories that failed and others came to a complete stop. Of the once that shut down, about half could be rebooted in limp mode. The remainder had to be towed away. It was a crapshoot as far as predicting the outcomes.

The findings about varnish failures on windings were the result of Russian tests.

[JRandomFreeper]

Nyet, tovarich. No question is dumb. Cell phones have batteries that won't be affected.

Computers that are protected will work and I don't know about you, but an intranet can be as important as an internet.

I've got 3 blocks around here covered with network connection if required.

Sure, google and wiki won't be available, but a local network will be, and eventually will connect to other networks... hey... isn't that how arpanet started back when I didn't have to shave twice a day?

/johnny

[JRandomFreeper]

I like the idea of rendering down goblins and using the oil for lamps.

Except that I'll have electric lights.

/johnny