Posted on 07/07/2012 10:08:50 PM PDT by djf
I watched a very interesting video last night. Electronic Armageddon, created by National Geographic.
There are a lot of interesting interviews with Air Defense people, Electronic engineers, Food and Agricultural industries.
It's an hour long or so show split into three parts:
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_Df0qwFxN4&feature=related
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBWyXDJ9J74
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NEhZHWGRg
Good reason to by a beater '64 Dodge!!
Preppers’ PING!!
BMFL
Titan II ICBM launch
Mark 6 re-entry vehicle
Doesn’t need to be that large. Some studies have found that a single bomb of 1.5 megaton about 200 miles over Kansas would effect the entire nation.
The launch vehicle is the hard part. Iran currently has the capability to put 65kg into this high of orbit.
me, too.
srbfl
Would that really work?
Without trying to give my kids nightmares, I do tell them that once they confirm an EMP (not too hard to do), to fill up everything that can hold water, with water, as we use city water. So there will be a short time when water is available from gravity feed, and then it will be gone. Hopefully enough will be collected to ride us into rooftop collection.
...of course, life would suck after the pulse.
Thing that gets me is that alot of people think we would go back to say an 1870’s way of life, which would be survivable, even if it’s miserable.
Horse and buggy days.
But how many people even know how to DRIVE a buggy, MUCH LESS MAKE ONE?
How many people could make candles? Even if they had the wax? Come to think of it, where does wax even come from?
How many could make and operate a loom?
We wouldn’t go back to the 1870’s, we’d go back to the zero-zero seventies!!
Why didn't EMP take out Las Vegas?
There were over 300 tests performed by the US overall. Most in the Pacific, but some in the South Atlantic, in New Mexico, and the Nevada site I mentioned before. There was only one mention of EMP in the program, and it was in conjunction with a 30 MT (or so) shot in the Pacific, and it was noted as effecting a large area, but not that it was catastrophic. It just seemed to be a nuisance.
“How many people could make candles?”
Meee - did it as a hobby in grade school, and from time to time since. Still have all of the hardware (and gasoline and propane-powered stoves to melt the wax, or a solar oven might make more sense).
“Even if they had the wax?”
Still have about 30 lbs. It would last a while, but it would run out, of course.
“Come to think of it, where does wax even come from?”
The store - YOU IDIOT, just like where my food comes from. LOL.
“There were over 300 tests performed by the US overall. Most in the Pacific, but some in the South Atlantic, in New Mexico, and the Nevada site I mentioned before. There was only one mention of EMP in the program, and it was in conjunction with a 30 MT (or so) shot in the Pacific, and it was noted as effecting a large area, but not that it was catastrophic. It just seemed to be a nuisance. “
There is definitely some debate. Even the testing done on this show (on the thread) only claimed 10% of cars get wiped out, if I heard it right.
But what can you do - at least Newt talked about an EMP. I only wish someone would detonate one away from our mainland, say near Hawaii - and we could find out once and for all what the threat is.
Some years ago, I made a Faraday cage using a metal box and put my short wave and emergency radio in there.
This video was very informative. The country is just toast if this happens. Not many people would live through this. Suddenly it happens with no time for preps if an enemy does it. If the sun does it, the film says we have three days before it gets here. There would be major panic and I wouldn’t want to be in that panic. That’s why it’s important to be able to isolate yourself/family, immediately. After the initial panic, your situation might change so you could be in the open. I won’t be in the open.
Last week I read a very moving (fictional) account about the aftermath of an EMP attack on the US. The novel is called “One Second After”. It’s available an Amazon, but if you’re a cheap SOB (like me) you can also get it as a free PDF online. Just do a Google search for “one second after book PDF”. I was crying half the time I was reading it.
Do android Geres dream of electric gerbils?
The reason few of the tests had much of an EMP effect is NONE of them were detonated in the outer stratosphere. For an EMP to be a worst case scenario it needs to be 20 megaton and detonated about 300KM in space. Only a few were tested at that range and they were under 4MT. Also they were tested in the 50/60s and we did not even have many transistors of which any effect could be noted.
In 2012? Everything is 1.8v 40 nanometer and will FRY. Smoked. Dead forever. And it only takes ONE chip in a device to render that device gone. Doesn’t have to fry the whole board.
If an EMP attack happens... 200 million will be dead in 15 days due to lack of water. 50 million in cities due to simple dehydration. Another 50 due to dehydration from the “runs” they get drinking bad water. And the last 100 million two weeks later who had supplies, stole supplies or who did not die of dehydration will then turn on each other like animals or be the prey of those who do turn.
An EMP is the game changer. We build a house of cards and it WILL fall.
Almost everyone has a Faraday cage today.
It’s in your kitchen.
It’s called a “microwave oven”!
Because in 1965 or the 1961 Starfish test, no-one used microcircuits that are much more vulneralble than the tubes we used back then.
Microcircuits are used to control the water and sewage pumping stations today. Microcircuits are used to control the power grid.
Starfish was 600 miles away from Hawaii.
Telephones were controlled by rotary relays back then. Today, it's sensitive computers.
So sensitive in fact that people that work on them wear wrist straps to drain off static electicity. That little spark in winter when you scuff your feet across the carpet and touch the doorknob can ruin a computer.
/johnny
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