Posted on 06/28/2012 1:11:35 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
From all of the threads that have been posted on FR about the SCOTUS decision in regards to ObamaCare no one has asked on the quality of the medical care we can expect to receive.
Steve Crowder did an expose on the Canadian healthcare system that will give Americans a pretty good idea of what to expect at the link above.
But we can also look to the UK NHS (National Health Service) and their quality of medical care care given to those in jolly old England. Please post your favorite NHS nightmare story here.
Just watch Prime Minister’s Question Time on C-SPAN on Sunday evenings to get a good idea.Here (today,at least) you have to know a doctor (or,at least,a hospital) to get health care.In Britain you have to know a government bureaucrat.
Are there any links on YouTube of these pm’s question times?
Add Obamacare to the list. As our nation becomes poorer, as we do as intended and scratch and claw for every freebie available, could any rational person suspect that politics will not enter into health care access decisions?
Now no staffer will ever tell Jacquerie that because he is a constitutional conservative who donates to like minded pols and never in his 70 years voted for a single stinking rat, that he will not be allowed life extending procedures.
Nope, no one will be told that political affiliation will have anything to do with one’s level of care. That only happens in banana republics and totalitarian states.
I’m wondering how many physicians are going to quit the profession because of this monstrosity. And, assuming that a significant amount of them will quit, add this to the loads of people who will be going to see a doctor for minor ailments because it’s “free”.
If you want to see a doctor after Obamacare hits, take a few good books with you. You’re going to lots of time to read them while sitting in the waiting room.
Canadian Doctor Agrees With Steve Crowder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n61yXtwl9-M
I have read that US doctors are already starting to leave to practice in other countries that haven’t had their healthcare collectivized. The best and brightest will leave and all we’ll have left are third world wannabee doctors running the place.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/weird/patients-pull-own-teeth/story-e6frev20-1111114653616
I think you quite readily believe there will be “medical care” rendered by ObamaCare.
Its basically a massive tax coupled to a reduction of medical spending in the USA from its current 19% of GDP..to the “world” standards of about 6% GDP.
This is as explicit as it gets....
Ezekial Emanuel, MD-Rahm’s brother...and the White House advisor to health care 2008-2010- has also advocated basing medical decisions on a system which “produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.”
Basically..in the end ...the Banksters have used the pieces of the tools they own in DC to be sure they have a Treasury worth maintaining their access.
“Justice” Roberts cutely assured them of that today....
Just search it on youtube and you’ll find some...maybe not all however.It’s on C-SPAN at 9PM (Eastern & Pacific) on Sundays and you can also go to www.parliament.uk and there’s a video section there where you can watch it.
Here’s what will happen.
ObamaCare costs will explode. There is no way to control demand for medical services that someone else is paying for, especially when we’ve just added a million more illegals with untold millions more to come now that the free cheese is better.
In misguided efforts to control costs that can’t be controlled politicians will put pressure on evil Big Pharma (remember Hillary riding this hobbyhorse). Profits will vanish as will incentive to innovate. The new drug pipeline will dry up.
Death panels we already know about - “No expensive medical care for you!”
Then they will turn to doctor costs. Salary restrictions will be imposed. Those who could be talented doctors will find other avenues more remunerative.
There will then be a doctor shortage. To fill the gap recruiting will be extended broadly, both geographically (3rd world) and as regards quality (3rd rate).
We will indeed arrive at where the UK is now - a system hardly different than the Morlocks’ siren, a system to avoid at all costs if you don’t want to be killed or maimed further.
Read Theodore Dalrymple on the UK’s NHS to see what our future holds.
Where? Mexico, Turkey and China?
Those three are really the only ones that DON’T have some kind of universal healthcare.
Mexico and Turkey wouldn’t be too bad. In China, of course, the doctors are also organ-harvesters! Little money on the side.
“Steve Crowder did an expose on the Canadian healthcare system...”
No. He did not. He did an expose on Quebec’s healthcare system. You do realize, do you not, that in Canada the health care system is under Provincial jurisdiction, not Federal. I’ve lived in four provinces (Quebec not included) and I’ve never had a problem finding a competent doctor or getting in to see a specialist within a reasonable time when and if the need arose. I’m not saying it couldn’t be better, but at least you folks should make an attempt, if nothing else, to get the facts straight.
Having read medical treatment anecdotes from Canada and the UK for years, and having lived in BC during the 80s, I’ve come to the conclusion the more “ordinary” your ailment is the more likely you are to get totally satisfactory care in these countries. The rarer and more specialized the ailment the more likely you’ll have to travel for state-of-the-art care in the U.S. One fellow I know in Toronto has traveled to the U.S. four times, I believe, for specialized care for various uncommon disorders. To Ontario’s credit the U.S. treatment was paid for by the province. Part of the U.S. superiority at the bleeding edge is just the larger population, more medical schools, etc., not the insurance system. However, there are well-known deficiencies in Canada such as wait times for CT scans and MRI (unless you are a dog). Here it is frequently walk right in and get one even for a non-emergency case. This brings to mind the possibility of over-investment (me too clinics), which is inefficient and costly also.
Thanks for that info.
“Part of the U.S. superiority at the bleeding edge is just the larger population...”
Which means more money and, therefore, a greater likelihood of specialization and research.
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