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This Bright-Eyed Young Man Was Utterly Demolished by Student Loans
Business Insider (via Yahoo News) ^ | Mandi Woodru

Posted on 05/31/2012 6:39:59 AM PDT by Michael.SF.

Even as total outstanding student debt rises to $1 trillion, lawmakers have yet to allow loans to be discharged in bankruptcy.

Without an escape clause, these loans can strangle a person.

Take 36-year-old Nick Keith, who remains $142,000 in debt eight years after graduating from culinary school. He's featured in a new film, "Default: The Student Loan Documentary," in which several college graduates expose the pitfalls of the private student loan industry.

"I want to educate the public about the facts," Keith said. "My life has become a daily swim in a tar pit with very little hope of ever getting out."

Keith's father only agreed to co-sign a student loan if he stuck with an engineering degree at Iowa State University, but even with decent grades, he knew it wasn't a right fit.

He dropped out sophomore year and later turned to the California Culinary Academy–without his dad as a safety net–hoping to put his love for healthy eating to use.

"The culinary academy commercials were on the Food Network every 15 minutes," he said, and only required 12 months of study with a three month externship.

He fell for their sales pitch, hook line and sinker

"I should have seen all the signs. [The campus tour guide] had a used car salesman answer for everything," Keith recalls.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


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To: driftdiver
However what the universities are doing is unethical and immoral.

Absolutely! And part of the scam is telling the students how "valuable" their degrees will be. I'm not the biggest fan of federal laws, but consumer protection laws should be extended to higher education.

Colleges should be required to keep, and provide, data on just how marketable their degrees are.

Then if the student still wants to gamble on a weak degree, it's his responsibility.

21 posted on 05/31/2012 7:03:46 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Bullshit! If the kid got the degree they need to pay for it, period. The ONLY reason to discharge a student loan would be if the student died or was totally disabled.


22 posted on 05/31/2012 7:08:51 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (ABO)
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To: Michael.SF.
142000 bucks to learn how to cook?

Geez the military would have taught him for free..then again he doesn't sound smart enough to qualify.

23 posted on 05/31/2012 7:08:57 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: IronJack

Actually, it was a total of $60,000. The rest is accrued interest. Still way too much to be a cook. He wanted a diploma from a fancy school so he could say he graduated from The Cullinary Institute for Crepe Studies.


24 posted on 05/31/2012 7:10:08 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Michael.SF.

25 posted on 05/31/2012 7:10:35 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Psycho_Bunny
If people could discharge their student loans, there would be absolutely no reason to charge tuition at colleges. Higher education would be free.

"Higher education" wouldn't be free; it would be priced at a level where the students could pay for it as they went along with part-time work (delivering pizza, waiting on tables, painting houses in the summer, etc).

26 posted on 05/31/2012 7:11:16 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: driftdiver

Don’t neglect the government creating the atmosphere for the massive hikes in college tuition. The “student loan bubble” is being fueled by government telling universities that :everyone should go to college” and providing cheap financing to do so. Sound familiar? Didn’t we just see this movie with housing? The colleges are simply balancing the supply/demand equation by raising prices. What I don’t know, however, is what happens when the bubble bursts...


27 posted on 05/31/2012 7:11:17 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Michael.SF.
...hoping to put his love for healthy eating to use.

I have a love of boozin it up, sleeping until noon and not showering and getting dressed for days on end but I knew it wasn't a growth industry so I decided to stick with the (real) sciences.

28 posted on 05/31/2012 7:12:25 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Michael Barnes
Current bankruptcy law has led banks to collude with the universities to make available huge amounts of student loan money for non-lucrative degree programs. Universities benefit by being able to continually raise tuition and keep a whole host of America-hating Leftists gainfully employed teaching various ethnic and gender studies programs which have no relevance to reality. Change the bankruptcy law, and all of a sudden a student will have to study computer science or engineering to have a prayer of getting a loan - as it should be.

Making student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy again will instantly defund one of the Left's most nefarious schemes, put huge downward pressure on tuition rates, and smack the banksters right in their pig snouts at the same time. Couldn't happen to two nicer groups of anti-Americans. :)

29 posted on 05/31/2012 7:14:52 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: IronJack
This clown spent $142,000 learning to COOK and I’m supposed to feel sorry for him???

Geez, I'd have taught him for $10K. Lunch included.

30 posted on 05/31/2012 7:29:08 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: lurk

One can get a Class A cdl w training for about $2,500. The minimum requirement is 23 years of age, no felony convictions. In about a week of training, you can get your cdl. After srarting w a major carrier, you will be on your own in 6 weeks.

1st year trucking pays about 35k. Team drivers can easily make 50k the first year.


31 posted on 05/31/2012 7:29:47 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: lurk

One can get a Class A cdl w training for about $2,500. The minimum requirement is 23 years of age, no felony convictions. In about a week of training, you can get your cdl. After srarting w a major carrier, you will be on your own in 6 weeks.

1st year trucking pays about 35k. Team drivers can easily make 50k the first year.


32 posted on 05/31/2012 7:30:40 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Making student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy again will instantly defund one of the Left's most nefarious schemes, put huge downward pressure on tuition rates.

I'd love to see this as a platform item but it would be a net vote killer, not getter.

The independents react to "nice". This would be spun as a war on youth and education.

It's harder to demonstrate that thousands in debt, for a relatively low paying career; is not "nice".

"Nice" always wins independents, who decide things; until we can get the self loathing left to wake up.

33 posted on 05/31/2012 7:34:53 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Michael.SF.
This idiot drops out of engineering school to be a chief and now wants the taxpayers to bail him out!

He dropped out of engineering school when he realized they weren't teaching him how to drive a choo-choo.

34 posted on 05/31/2012 7:36:23 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: All

I completely agree with you. Thanks to the idiot counselors at their high school, one of my children decided to be either a rock star or an actor and another pinned her hopes on being a singer. As parents, we suggested—no, DEMANDED, that they first continue to make good grades and find a way to make a living THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE LIFESTYLE THEY WANTED. After that, they were welcome to sing, dance, or whatever was decent.

Today, both are engineers with zero student loan debt. We hated to urge them to postpone their “superstar” dreams, however impractical, but now they are free and equipped to live life as they wish.


35 posted on 05/31/2012 7:39:24 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
What ever happened to working a part time job while going to school ?

I waited tables, changed tapes at an automated FM radio station, and held a couple of other gigs while chasing the elusive BA...


That's what illegals, guest workers, foreign students, and low wage immigrants [who are annual subsidized at $20,000 per household] are for.
36 posted on 05/31/2012 7:40:21 AM PDT by khelus
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To: Leaning Right

“Colleges should be required to keep, and provide, data on just how marketable their degrees are.”

The technical schools do it as well. get a MSCE and you’re guaranteed a 70k salary. Remember those commercials?


37 posted on 05/31/2012 7:41:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Michael.SF.

Michael: “lawmakers have yet to allow loans to be discharged in bankruptcy.”

Psycho: If people could discharge their student loans, there would be absolutely no reason to charge tuition at colleges. Higher education would be free.

Me: If people could discharge their student loans, in the near term a lot of lenders (not the schools) would be left holding the bag.

In the longer term, assuming that the gubmint no longer uses our money to make the lenders whole for these defaults, the surviving lenders will eventually get the idea that they should make more sensible loans, and no longer conspire with the ripoff trade schools. It would probably drive down the cost of both university and tradeschool education, which (as we all know) have been the engine driving up costs and tuitions over the past generation at least.


38 posted on 05/31/2012 7:44:42 AM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
changed tapes at an automated FM radio station

I got a parity error on that, but I was able to hit the red reset button and finish the sentence.

≤}B^)

ps. I do knowwhatchamean.

39 posted on 05/31/2012 7:47:50 AM PDT by Erasmus (BHO: New supreme leader of the homey rollin' empire.)
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To: khelus

My part time jobs helped in other ways.

The restaurant always had left over salad and sandwiches. Sometimes the wrong topping resulted in a pizza being sent back to the kitchen (oops.)

The radio station was a good quiet place to study with hourly breaks to change the big reels of tape.

I had just over $1,000 in my checking account when I graduated. It’s hard for me to believe some of these $100,000 debt stories.

What’s wrong with these people ?


40 posted on 05/31/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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