Posted on 04/30/2012 1:22:04 PM PDT by Sopater
Relying on the anonymity of FR, I'm hoping for some candid discussion on how members deal with the "No Weapons on Property" prohibitions if they carry concealed. In WI, the fine is up to $500 and up to 30 days in jail for carrying on a property where it posted that weapons are prohibited.
She drew the picture don’tchaknow.
The eagle is a female.
If I saw a sign like that I would avoid the place because it’s an open invitation to maniacs like that guy that shot up the Luby’s in Texas or that Korean that opened fire on those college kids in Virginia.
They know that no one is armed to stop their rampage.
Does it say”weapons” or “guns”? If it says “weapons” how is that defined? It sounds like the law may be too vague to be enforceable. I taught martial arts for 15 years and I can make a deadly “weapon” out of a rolled up magazine.
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I agree with this statement. Your fists/hands can be a weapon. Your car keys can be a weapon. Your pocket knife, ink pen... etc...etc... Are you then required to amputate yourself in order to patronize this establishment? Screw em. Go elsewhere.
Honor their property rights, bypass their establishment and, if you must enter and something dreadful should happen, sue the ever-lovin’ carp out of them for failure to execute their implied duty to defend you when they denied your right to self-defense. One or two of those cases goes toward a win and we might see a rethink of the gun-free-victim-rich zone signs.
Respect property rights
I think that respect for the Rule of Law requires adherence to the letter of the law: the vendor’s property rights as well as the criminal statute. Don’t patronize such businesses, and tell them in writing why you are not patronizing them.
You need some support panty hose there man.
In my state, if you carry in a prohibited place and get caught, you lose your license and possibly prosecuted. I wouldn’t chance it. If it is an optional visit, I’d make sure that place lost my business, permanently - and I’d let the owner know.
If the property owner prohibits you from coming onto his property with a gun, then you have to obey. Its called private property rights... you have the choice of either not patronizing the establishment or leaving your gun behind. Its as simple as that.
In Texas, read the sign carefully. Most of them say the Unlicensed gun is prohibited. IOW, if you have a C & C license, you’re good to go into the establishment.
Simple reality, you want your rights respected you should respect others. If a private property owner has a posted no guns allowed, respect it, or just don’t go there.
You can’t assert and gripe about your rights needing to be respected if you won’t respect others as well.
That is supposed to be the purview of the NRA but they seem to be getting more cowardly, kowtowing and co-opted with each passing day.
In Iowa you can carry on their property but must leave if they tell you to leave. If you refuse then they can involve the police and you will lose your permit to carry.
I carry concealed and have never had a problem. My BIL carries open and has actually caused some businesses to post “no guns allowed on property” because he wants to show everyone he is armed.
I myself like the edge concealed carry gives me. The element of surprise is a good thing.
I can’t believe you let your eagle smoke! Don’t you know that second-hand eagle smoke kills 7 million people and small puppies every hour?! It is also the major cause of global warming, budget deficits and Lady Gaga. How selfish of you!
It’s hard to argue with the “respect their property rights” argument. I think I’ll heed that advice and not patronize the establishment. I’ll also send a letter to the establishment so that they can note my complaint and consider their policy.
Now what you need to improve that picture is a stylized hero version of Sarah Palin at his side ready to kick butt and I’d post that picture as far and wide as I can!
My current house is within 400 feet of a public gradeschool so I don’t give a ratsass about that stupidass law.
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