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I think there would be screaming for two days, and then nothing. People would roll over, and the scum would win.
1 posted on 03/06/2012 2:30:20 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

He can pardon those in the criminal system, but only individually. He’d have to hand sign 2-million pardons. He can’t grant them citizenship, though, so they wouldn’t be able to vote.

SnakeDoc


2 posted on 03/06/2012 2:32:57 PM PST by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less" -- Raylan Givens)
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To: SoFloFreeper

No!


3 posted on 03/06/2012 2:33:04 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: SoFloFreeper

MSM would “welcome a new day in America.”


4 posted on 03/06/2012 2:34:05 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He can do anything he wants and if you don’t like it you’re a racist.


5 posted on 03/06/2012 2:35:58 PM PST by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

With Mexico the mess it is, the state dept will just make everyone south of the Rio grande ‘refugees’, it’s happening one by one already. He’s doing it piecemeal, like the student deferments etc.


7 posted on 03/06/2012 2:37:41 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I believe pardons are for those convicted of something in court. I suppose those who have been convicted could be pardoned but that doesn’t mean they meet immigration criteria, it only means their criminal records are expunged.
As of now that would not qualify them to vote but it would enamor them to Obie. It would cost him dearly in the general population, at least innitially.


8 posted on 03/06/2012 2:38:22 PM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Effectively, he already has. That is why he is campaigning so much in Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado.


10 posted on 03/06/2012 2:39:49 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If he wanted to cause a huge Constitutional crisis that would blow the lid off of his fake presidency than he could try something like that.

In other words.... Aint’ gonna’ happen.


11 posted on 03/06/2012 2:41:18 PM PST by Bullish
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To: SoFloFreeper

He could pardon them for the crime(s) they’ve committED (e.g., being in the country illegally). So they couldn’t be prosecuted subsequently for that past crime. However, at the stroke of midnight they would have committed the crime again and be subject to the penalties for that.


12 posted on 03/06/2012 2:41:32 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s happened in CA if they get licenses. We have motor voter here.


13 posted on 03/06/2012 2:43:29 PM PST by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - we need a STEADY conservative President)
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To: SoFloFreeper
3+ year old memo issued to America from the obozo; “I can and will do what ever I damned well please, constitutional law will only apply when I deem it useful for my agenda.”
14 posted on 03/06/2012 2:43:48 PM PST by drypowder
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sure he can, if no one challenges him on it.


18 posted on 03/06/2012 2:58:49 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They’d need to be in the criminal system first. But then they’d still be committing a crime once they got out, since they are still illegals, so no, not likely. Otherwise, simply serving jailtime would gain them citizenship. Now that’d be a deal.


21 posted on 03/06/2012 3:01:23 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Amnesty, if it were given, is not citizenship. If the amnestied illegals were allowed to vote, it would be absolutely no different from their voting now. It would be illegal but that wouldn’t prevent some Dems for trying it.


22 posted on 03/06/2012 3:04:22 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: SoFloFreeper

Uh... You need a basic civics lesson in who can and who cannot vote in U.S. elections.


23 posted on 03/06/2012 3:08:14 PM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I have contemplated a similar scenario. He issues mass pardons to non-white inmates and recuits them into his “civilian defense force” literally as they walk out of prison. If he offered enough compensation, many would jump at the chance to get even with whitey. Would this be legal? Wound anyone in power try to stop it?


25 posted on 03/06/2012 3:11:33 PM PST by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They would still be on violation of the law. Moreover, pardons are issued after adjudication.


26 posted on 03/06/2012 3:22:21 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SoFloFreeper
There are no constraints upon the pardon power granted to the President in the Constitution. No requirement for the pardonee to be in the criminal system, no authority to Congress to constrain the power in any way. Obama could issue an Executive Order to enable blanket pardons and that would be that. Only Impeachment could blunt the power and there would be an argument over whether that clause meant a President under Impeachment could not issue pardons or that a President could not pardon someone being Impeached.

Double jeopardy would take care of any idea that one minute past pardon the "immigrant" would be illegal again. That said, the Constitution does not grant the president the ability to naturalize immigrants so he could not confer the voting franchise upon the new residents.

Consider Carter's blanket amnesty for the Vietnam draft dodgers.

IANL

29 posted on 03/06/2012 5:42:57 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: SoFloFreeper; All
It's a moot point.

Illegals already vote, by the millions.

They are an integral part of the democrat voter base, along with all of those on the plantation of welfare.

Millions more.

The dems give more money to deadbeat unwed mothers, the “homeless” fathers via SSI etc and then of course they vote the dems back in. Vicious circle.

Motor voter was a program to get illegals voting rights.

Just before Clinton left office and Gore was running against Bush, he sent out 10’s of thousands of forms to illegal aliens which “proved” they were registered to vote. That's how Gore almost stole the election back then.

Yup, pardons are not necessary, the plan is in motion.

And of course, the brain dead GOP thinks they can get the illegal voting block to pull the lever for them, so they don't fight against voter fraud.

The only hope is the Tea Party Movement.

30 posted on 03/06/2012 8:26:11 PM PST by Syncro (So? -Andrew Brietbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
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