[Army Air Corps]

Ping.

[Lakeshark]

Other than for those who need intermittent power off the grid, until they figure out how to store energy from wind and solar, they are losers in the true energy market.

So far they can only make it via government mandates and subsidies.

[oldenuff2no]

When wind can be made to blow on demand where, and when instantly necessary to full fill peak demand some of this may in fact turn out to be true. Until that ability arrives wind will never be dependable.
Any reasoning person should be able to see this fallacy. Ask some of the folks up on the Columbia river about wind and solar energy. When they had record rainfall last year and the water storage for hydro power was huge the power companies simply quit buying the solar and wind generated power. Bio fuels is also taking a huge dump right now. Although this fuel can be harvested and stored until the energy is needed it is now head to head with the super cheap and plentiful natural gas. Most bio fuels plants have already shut down or are about to. I wish these feel good stories were true and real, but they are not. Without government subsidies and laws that force the purchase of wind solar and bio fuel generated electrical power these sources of power can't exist. The market does not want them and is not well suited for the time limitations involved in their production. Electrical power has to be delivered on demand when demanded. Not just when the sun shines or the wind blows. Sorry.

[Capt. Tom]

Here is Scituate MA, we have a wind turbine coming to town in mid January. The Tower is 263 feet high and the blades are 120 feet long.
It cost 6 million dollars of taxpayers money.

Here are some interesting points.
It was designed in --GERMANY.
It was built in -----CHINA.

It will come from China by ship and be offloaded in Providence RI, and in sections be trucked to Scituate,MA

I guess Americans can't competitively design or make wind turbines. - tom

[FlingWingFlyer]

I wonder how much money the commie ‘RAT elitists have made by outlawing oil and coal and investing their money in wind and solar. I think that I smell corruption here but I can’t be sure.

[G Larry]

Didn’t I read that over 4,000 windmill have been abandoned in place, since the subsidies for them stopped?

Are you aware that States and Municipalities have “legislated” the % of “renewable” power some utilities MUST provide?
Here’s how they do it.
XCEL must provide 10% of its power from “renewable sources”.
When the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine, coal and gas fired plants make up the difference......BUT!!!
...they bookkeep and allocate that power to the “renewable” column....
How pitiful and corrupt is that?

[vpintheak]

Here in Fairbanks Alaska, we are building a wind farm. The ONLY reason we can do it is because the cost of oil is so freaking high, wind is actually cheaper. Also the state and federal government has given money for the project. If it were not for government “free” money, and the high price of oil, this would be an idiotic investment.
As it is, it will actually produce power at a lesser cost that oil fired power plants. Sad, sad, sad.

[RoadTest]

The wind: we know not whether it will blow, or when.