[RummyChick]

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.146913178676534.20683.146647945369724&type=3

“Experts determined that the cloth of Manoppello is not Veronica’s veil, but rather the face cloth layed over the face of Jesus in the tomb. Unlike the Shroud of Turin, which is a “negative” of the image, the image on the face cloth is a “positive” of the face of Christ. “

[RummyChick]

here is an interesting discussion about Veronica’s veil

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1646533/posts

[Swordmaker]

“Experts determined that the cloth of Manoppello is not Veronica’s veil, but rather the face cloth layed over the face of Jesus in the tomb. Unlike the Shroud of Turin, which is a “negative” of the image, the image on the face cloth is a “positive” of the face of Christ. “

Experts have determined no such thing. It is actually from a much later time and is reported in history. It is a self-portrait of the painter Raphael as a young man painted on Byssus... a very rare, extremely expensive cloth... or still expensive French Cambric cotton. There are extant letters between Raphael (1483-1520) and Albrecht Dürer (1471-1528) in which they discuss these transparent paintings which they exchanged between themselves. Under a microscope, pigments can be seen on the Manoppello veil., especially in the whites of the eyes.. and it is described in the Raphael letter to Dürer from 1507 - 1508. . . about 130 years before it shows up in Manoppello in 1638.

The first picture above is a self-portrait of Raphael at age 20, the second is the Manoppello Veronica, the third is Raphael's self-portrait at about 32 years old (He died at 37)... the two self-portraits book end the of age 22- 25 at which age he painted the byssus/cambric painting he sent to Dürer which is thought to be the image in Manoppello. You can see the image is very much like him.

The last image is the Vatican's Veronica... on linen.