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Gasoline: The new big U.S. export
CNNMoney ^ | 12/5/11 | Steve Hargeaves

Posted on 12/05/2011 8:21:41 AM PST by illiac

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The United States is awash in gasoline. So much so, in fact, that the country is exporting a record amount of it.

The country exported 430,000 more barrels of gasoline a day than it imported in September, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

That is about twice the amount at the start of the year, and experts and industry insiders say the trend is here to stay.

The United States began exporting gas in late 2008. For decades prior, starting in 1960, the country used all the gas it produced here plus had to import gas from places Europe.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: business; economy; gasoline; gasprices; obama; oil
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And our prices are at nearly all-time highs.....
1 posted on 12/05/2011 8:21:49 AM PST by illiac
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To: illiac

It’s about time we got back in the export business.


2 posted on 12/05/2011 8:25:43 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: illiac

Gas prices seem to have dropped. Diesel however........


3 posted on 12/05/2011 8:26:09 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: illiac
There's nothing keeping the Chinese or anyone else from buying the oil right out from under our feet. And if we're not actually at peak oil, we're definitely approaching it. Both supply and demand are becoming less elastic, leading to increasing prices.


4 posted on 12/05/2011 8:28:58 AM PST by CowboyJay (Generic Republican - 2012. He's the only 'electable' candidate.)
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To: Paladin2
“Gas prices seem to have dropped”

Not where I'm from. They seem to be inching upward by pennies now. When Iran shuts down the Straits of Hormuz, well, we will see were gas goes from there. n/s

5 posted on 12/05/2011 8:29:41 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: Paladin2

Get rid of Obama and see how fast gas prices drop.


6 posted on 12/05/2011 8:30:27 AM PST by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: illiac

It is a commodity that is easily transported. Thus, the price is influenced by the global market. Producers will sell to whoever will pay the highest price. Thus when gasoline is high overseas, they will sell into that market to maximize their profits. The good news is that gasoline prices are coming down and hopefully the trend will continue.

The area where we need more production is diesel. When the price of diesel comes down, it has a much larger impact to the overall market as much of our transportation of costs is tied to the cost of diesel.


7 posted on 12/05/2011 8:31:06 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: illiac
Find your local prices before you go for fuel.

Gasbuddy.com


8 posted on 12/05/2011 8:39:12 AM PST by deport
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To: illiac

“And our prices are at nearly all-time highs.....”

I suspect you’re thinking that if we restrict gas exports that the price of gas will fall. Let’s suppose that the government decides to lower domestic gasoline prices by doing that. Go to this link to compare world-wide gas prices with taxes:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/interactives/_business/gallon_gas/index.html?SITE=ILBLO&SECTION=HOME

What you’ll notice is that the price of gas without taxes is pretty close except in Russia, China and India.

If you go to this link: http://business.whatitcosts.com/refine-oil-pg3.htm
You’ll see…
• 74% - Cost of the crude oil
• 11% - Taxes
• 10% - Refining costs
• 5% - Distribution and marketing
So, 74% of the cost of a gallon of gas is made up from the cost of buying crude oil. So, the idea of forcing oil companies to keep gas here rather then exporting it comes down to them eating some of the costs above. The paragraph below is from the article on costs. It says the oil company profit per gallon is already down. This may sound conter-intuitive to a gas buyer, but we WANT the company to make a proft as that is their motive for supplying the gas.
“As of 1999, for every gallon of gasoline refined from crude oil, U.S. oil refiners made an average profit of 22.8 cents. By 2004, the profits jumped to 40.8 cents per gallon of gasoline refined. In the specialized California market where the gasoline must conform to the requirements of the California Air Resources Board, refinery margins were even higher. In fact, this helped Exxon, the largest company, report a profit (as of February 2008) of $40.6 billion. Nevertheless, one financial tracking institution reported that the profit-margins have now dropped to about 29.6 cents a gallon or around 60 percent lower than a year ago.”


9 posted on 12/05/2011 8:40:40 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: cameraeye
http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas/gasoline/upload/Whats_Up_With_Gasoline_Prices.pdf

The Diesel/Gas price spread seems ridiculous at the moment to me.

10 posted on 12/05/2011 8:44:03 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: illiac
And our prices are at nearly all-time highs.....

????


11 posted on 12/05/2011 8:51:34 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Although the chart is interesting, here in N. Idaho, we are not seeing nearly that low a price....


12 posted on 12/05/2011 8:55:22 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: illiac
The country exported 430,000 more barrels of gasoline a day than it imported in September, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

That number is very deceptive. It is only counting finished motor gasoline and is not counting the gasoline blending components that are most of our imports. We blend in multiple components to meet our different gasoline specifications. If you count the total of imports that goes to the gasoline tanks in our cars, we import over 240,000 barrels per day more than we export.


13 posted on 12/05/2011 9:00:57 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: illiac

Thanks. NOW I know why oil is up but prices have been drifting down.

Since the beginning of Oct oil has gone from around $80 a barrel to $100 and yet gas around here has gone from around $3.50 to $3.15 a gallon. Couldn’t figure out why. Well, from my novice point of view at least :-)


14 posted on 12/05/2011 9:06:35 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: illiac

I had been confused over the price of oil going up recently, but gas has been steadily coming down for most of the year. It was pushing close to $4ga, but now can be found under $3


15 posted on 12/05/2011 9:08:59 AM PST by rightly_dividing (1Cor. 15:1-4)
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To: illiac
I don't have a breakdown for norther Idaho, but the state average is very similar.

AAA is reporting slightly higher for Coeur D' Alene but similar pricing.

ID Metro Averages
http://fuelgaugereport.opisnet.com/IDmetro_print.html

16 posted on 12/05/2011 9:09:08 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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AAA statistics may be off....paid $3.59/gal for regular on Friday.....


17 posted on 12/05/2011 9:11:58 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Paladin2

Don’t know where you are but here in CT gas has dropped almost fifty cents a gallon in the last two months but diesel is still at $4.09. Almost everywhere. A few cents difference but not enough to chase it.


18 posted on 12/05/2011 9:12:21 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: illiac

Gas prices in Greenville, SC, area are coming down. Actually started going down from $3.04/gal the day before Thanksgiving. Now we’re in the $2.85 range.

All that notwithstanding, if we’re awash in petroleum and likely to remain so for a while tell me why alternative energy usage now is necessary.

I was in San Francisco a couple of years ago and passed one of those busses that run on overhead electricity. A sign on the vehicle said the bus was reducing SF’s carbon footprint or some such. Do those Marxist walking dead out there on the left coast really believe the fossil fuel power plant necessary to produce the power that runs the busses is carbon footprint neutral—let alone negative?


19 posted on 12/05/2011 9:14:18 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: Oberon
It’s about time we got back in the export business.

Read the article. We still import half of our crude, which is processed into gasoline and diesel, some of which is exported. This is a good thing for the U.S., but the EPA and the administration will find a way to screw it up.

20 posted on 12/05/2011 9:17:45 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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