Posted on 11/28/2011 10:48:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
fyi
Ping.
Does this tend to support the assertion that temperature effects CO2 levels not vice versa.
Very poorly written, but it doesn't appear to show that at all.
It shows varying concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere in different areas, but doesn't really show how or where it entered the atmosphere.
CO2 IS increasing. That's a fact. If industrialization and fossil fuels have nothing to do with the increase, what's the alternative mechanism?
Wow! Can’t wait to see this on CNNNBCCBSABCMSNBC.
There is a map at the website .
You can rest easy and forget about Global Climate Change. The theory is dead and buried at this point.
The data shows Carbon Dioxide doesn’t cause global warming anyway.
“...CO2 IS increasing. That’s a fact. If industrialization and fossil fuels have nothing to do with the increase, what’s the alternative mechanism? ...”
Yup, that horrifying increase to almost 3 one hundredths of one percent is really hurting, isn’t it? After all, it’s responsible for our 10+ year cooling that we’re currently undegoing.
No doubt they’ll wrap the data in correction factors and statistical gobbledigook until it gives the desired results.
Nothing may oppose the unfalsifiable hypothesis!
Lots of natural mechanisms emit CO.
Wood fires don’t cause a significant net increase in carbon in the atmosphere. Trees take carbon out when they grow, then put it back when they are burned or decay. No net increase.
Coal is much dirtier (particulate) when it is burned in a low-tech stove than in high-tech power plant, but they release pretty much the same carbon.
What counts is the total amount of coal burned, not how it is burned. Low-tech coal burning stoves are a tiny percentage of world consumption.
In the words of that famous philosopher and hero, Nelson Muntz...”ha ha”
Warmer water holds less carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide is released from the oceans as they warm. The oceans warm due to increased solar activity.
Ice core data suppports this alternate mechanism - past history shows that the warming preceeds CO2 increases by about 800 years
Just shot yourself down. We came out of the Little Ice Age around 1850, so present warming is something like 650 years early.
Look, I think it is just a fact that man is presently changing the composition of the atmosphere in minor degrees by putting massive amounts of stored carbon back into the atmosphere.
What effects, if any, this has on the climate is yet to be determined.
http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html
There's an image embedded in the lead article, but the original is really small.
Let me see if I can expand it:
Well, that's ugly. and I'm not really sure what it says. I'll keep looking for a better version.
But, I found a better image here:
But, this image means nothing: it's simply a plot of the reduction in the uncertainty of the measurement for each region, by using the satellite data -- in comparison to data collected on the ground.
Here's what you really want to see:
July 2009 |
October 2009 |
January 2010 |
April 2010 |
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As you can see, it varies according to the time of year.
Present levels of CO2 and the present temperature are both very close to “average” for the earth’s history. In terms of the history of the past several hunderd million years, they are unremarkable.
The present (minor) increase in CO2 began several decades BEFORE the industrial revolution. It would be hard to argue that industrial activity is a cause of the CO2 increase when the increase started before industry did.
As far as how CO2 affect temperature, please see the Beer-Lambert Law. Here is a pretty good source: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/08/the-logarithmic-effect-of-carbon-dioxide/
Hmmm...this report is certainly inconvenient...
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