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To: Slings and Arrows

He really deserved this, people?

Don’t we talk about people using condoms to be responsible?

How could he have prevented this? He’d have to be looking at her like she was insane to even consider she was doing this. How can you possibly keep dating or have a chance to fall in love with a woman if you have to look at every one of them you’re dating as possibly pulling a stunt like this?

All you people would have called him paranoid.

How do you say no sex to a woman you are dating, who wants to have sex with you? For six months? Seriously.

Using condoms is 100% clear the guy does not want children. Come on. Keeping it in the pants is not going to keep the woman dating you and all of you know it. Just try rejecting your girlfriends’ advances for 6 months if she wants sex. See if you have her as a girlfriend saying “no” all that time.


15 posted on 11/27/2011 10:52:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
How can you possibly keep dating or have a chance to fall in love with a woman if you have to look at every one of them you’re dating as possibly pulling a stunt like this?

Bop you over the head with a bible. First courtship and marriage, then the sex. Doing something like this screws your soul, pardon my French.

18 posted on 11/27/2011 11:00:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Secret Agent Man

How could he have prevented it? He could keep his sperm to himself? He could avoid strippers? He could marry before he does the deed? He could be old-fashioned and responsible in the old-fashioned sense of the word? He could find a respectable woman?


20 posted on 11/27/2011 11:04:17 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Secret Agent Man

Women...wouldn’t put anything past them. I had a “friend” call me one time...her husband was actually my husband’s platoon leader. Husband was the platoon sergeant. She wanted to tell her husband she was taking the pill, but not really....she wanted to pretend so she could get pregnant again...lie to him in short. She wanted another kid, he didn’t and doesn’t. They have 2. I told her you lie to him to get pregnant and he finds out, your marriage is over. The truth always comes out.


23 posted on 11/27/2011 11:38:13 PM PST by rangerwife (Proud wife of a Purple Heart Recipient)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Secret Agent Man: “See if you have her as a girlfriend saying “no” all that time.”

Doesn't sound like a great loss to me. Of course, I'm from an era where fornication was considered wrong, and more people saved themselves for holy marriage. It was nothing like this immoral, modern free for all where people change mates like they change underwear. I guess people nowadays equate dating with sex. That's their choice, but there ARE real world repercussions for immoral behavior.

On the other hand, the guy didn't deserve this, but getting burnt isn't unexpected when one plays with fire. Exotic dancing isn't a profession like any other, and gentlemen clubs aren't really for gentlemen. That's why many exotic dancers have drug problems, prostitute themselves, etc. It's not a noble profession. It's an industry that feeds on the basest human desires.

26 posted on 11/28/2011 12:04:39 AM PST by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Aspire to be good!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Just try rejecting your girlfriends’ advances for 6 months if she wants sex. See if you have her as a girlfriend saying “no” all that time.

Here's a good rule of thumb. NEVER, EVER sleep with a woman you are unwilling to raise children with.

If American is going to succeed with it's experiment in self government, citizens must accept responsibility for their action. Another instance of "don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

27 posted on 11/28/2011 12:16:27 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Secret Agent Man

Women have all the power in deciding whether to have children these days. This isn’t the first time I’ve heard this tale — women going behind a guy’s back and circumventing whatever birth control method is used to trap him into either marriage or at least child support.

To level the playing field, we need a male contraceptive implant. Something that stops production of sperm for several years. Having a child is too important an event for it to happen without clear intent to raise it together. Every male should get such an implant at puberty and only have it removed when in a long term stable relationship, with both financial means and intent to begin a family.


31 posted on 11/28/2011 1:16:40 AM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

With all due respect: there really are women out there who don’t want what’s in your pants without a ring on their finger. It’s called ‘commitment’ and doing things the old-fashioned way. Get to know either other mentally, spiritually, character-wise first. Try churches and other houses of worship to find such women rather than try picking up someone in a bar = you’ll have better odds. I did not have sex before I married, and I was in my 50s. I was looking for the right guy, and we finally found each other.


34 posted on 11/28/2011 1:49:23 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Immorality bites in a lot of ways. Being responsible would be NOT fornicating.


39 posted on 11/28/2011 2:21:09 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Secret Agent Man; wagglebee; little jeremiah
Moral absolutes ping.

He played stupid games, won stupid prizes.

Leftists talk about using condoms as being responsible.

Conservatives talk about diseases promiscuity can spread many of which are not preventable by using a prophylactic. Chlamydia is one of those and it often leaves women infertile for the rest of their lives.

In addition, condoms have a ten percent failure rate at best, greater than that if the couple are young jackhammers with legs.

So back to your question about how could the guy have prevented this?

I believe the word is “chastity.”
Once upon a time, when personal responsibility had value that was practiced.

The man isn't a victim here. If there is a victim, its the two kids.

45 posted on 11/28/2011 4:39:56 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I'm not saying he deserved it, but he was absolutely a willing donor.

Kids happen...

47 posted on 11/28/2011 4:47:53 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Secret Agent Man; HiTech RedNeck
He really deserved this, people?

Most conservatives do not know that the same Supreme Court, in the same term, that decided Roe v. Wade decided the equally revolutionary Gomez v. Perez (409 U.S. 535), which nullified the bastardy statutes of all 50 states and altered the common law of millennia regarding a man's obligations to his children.

Just as 38 years of unrestricted abortion has changed our nation, so has the revolutionary idea that the solemn obligations of a married man to his wife and his children can be contracted with a slut in the bathroom of a bar in a moment of foolishness.

A man undertakes the MORAL obligation to support the children of his wife's body when he marries her before witnesses and God, as a reciprocal to her obligation to bear only his children.

When pumping and dumping a slut, no such obligation has EVER existed, not in the entire history of the human race, until the Roe court announced this OTHER revolution in 1973.

Conservatives should be as outraged about this as they are about the Roe decision.

49 posted on 11/28/2011 4:58:52 AM PST by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
How do you say no sex to a woman you are dating, who wants to have sex with you? For six months? Seriously.
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Hm?....Men who love the Lord, respect and love their future wife, and consider marriage a sacrament?

52 posted on 11/28/2011 5:29:22 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
He really deserved this, people?

Don’t we talk about people using condoms to be responsible?

How could he have prevented this?

How about "don't voluntarily have sex with people you don't want to have kids with"?

76 posted on 11/28/2011 9:21:29 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Secret Agent Man

How do you say no sex to a woman you are dating, who wants to have sex with you? For six months? Seriously.

Using condoms is 100% clear the guy does not want children. Come on. Keeping it in the pants is not going to keep the woman dating you and all of you know it. Just try rejecting your girlfriends’ advances for 6 months if she wants sex. See if you have her as a girlfriend saying “no” all that time.
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Poor peckerwood.
Try dating women who you would want to have your children, not, in this case, an exotic dancer, whose enitre focus is sex....and support.


107 posted on 11/28/2011 8:56:59 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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