[icwhatudo]

Cains numbers begin to go back up (now at 17%) after the "scandal". Romney at 20% and falling before the MSM even attacks. We will see how Newt survives his turn as the target.

Nice to finally have a poll that can't be attacked by the Cain haters as :

"That is an old poll before the allegations hit" "That is a straw poll, it does not count" "That poll had some of its early polling done before the scandal was in full force"

So what excuse do you have this time?

[Signalman]

Look for Rick Perry to make his move.

[icwhatudo]

ping

[ken21]

now trump says that he’s considering a run.

[iowamark]

I could handle a Cain v. Gingrich contest.

[Reagan Man]

According to this CNN poll, 67% of Republicans might change their minds and support a different candidate.

Semantics aside. That is consistent with the Rasmussen finding from last week that 70% of Republicans haven't made a final decision on what candidate they will support.

[fightinJAG]

Why would Cain supporters need an “excuse” for a poll that shows the candidate they support still in the top tier and beginning to rebuild support?

Did you think a candidate just bounces back up to the top after he’s had a setback and, in the meantime, another strong candidate was able to get a second look because of it?

I have no clue where Cain’s support will go from here. Depends on his performance and a number of other factors.

I don’t understand why you would you start a thread with an insult right out of the box, and one that doesn’t make sense anyway.

[TexasFreeper2009]

The reason Romney's numbers are down is obvious to anyone who has been following the polls closely. Newt is taking support mostly from Romney! Yes, Newt got some of the easily panicked Cain supporters, but Newt has had a FAR more devastating effect on Rommey. Suddenly Romney is fighting for his life in New Hampshire and California, while Cain is still sitting pretty almost everywhere he was before, and there is a good chance many of the spooked Cain voters will drift back to Cain over time as they realize that Newt has 10 times the personal baggage as Cain and has 10 times the issues that they disagree with him on than Perry.

[BagCamAddict]

From this link:

http://www.oddonion.com/2011/11/22/poll-in-2012-swing-states-obama-is-tied-with-mitt-romney-newt-gingrich-the-christian-science-monitor/

“Also not to be missed in the Purple Poll numbers is this: For all the gnashing about Romney’s lack of appeal to the base and the general enthusiasm deficit he faces (his unfavorable ratings continue to increase), just 10 percent of swing state voters say they would definitely not support him.”

[DouglasKC]

Romney...who has not been facing any accusations of scandal or major gaffes,

Gee wonder why that is?

[Sun]

“Nov 20, 2011 11:17amMitt Romney, An Iowa No-Show, Faces A Backlash From Republicans And Democrats
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“I think that’s gone with his persona and how he’s treating, Iowa, which happens to be a swing state. And he wants to win the presidency, which tells me that he lacks judgment,” Vander Plaats told reporters. “And if he lacks judgment I think people all across America have to say, ‘is he the right candidate?’”

more http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/mitt-romney-an-iowa-no-show-faces-a-backlash-from-republicans-and-democrats/

imo, Romney lacks judgment by ignoring an early-primary state, as well as a swing state, and I feel he is a coward who would not stand up to the Dems. Of course, maybe he would not want to stand up to Dems often times, as he probably agrees with them on many things.

[Future Useless Eater]

>>Cains numbers begin to go back up (now at 17%)

You're right, and Mitt is inching downward at the same time, (sweet).

Poll			Date		Sample		Mitt	Cain 
FOX News		11/13 - 11/15	370 RV		22	15
USA Today/Gallup	11/13 - 11/17	946 RV		21	16
CNN/Opinion Research	11/18 - 11/20	402 A		20	17

A couple more 'recovering' Cain polls and it will start showing up in the chart below.

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With Gallup and CNN polls added

Much like what the government does with unemployment statistics, the following chart represents a 4-poll "rolling average" for the latest 20+ polls listed at RealClearPolitics.com (plus other recent national polls).

I also weighted the polls by their size. For example, a poll with a survey size of 1000 was weighted proportionately heavier than an 324 survey size.

Weighted 4-Poll Rolling Averages of the latest
20+ Polls listed at RCP   [as of Nov 21st]
plus "YouGov" 11/15, 11/8, 11/1, 10/25, 10/18 and 10/11 polls, and
Poll Position 11/8, and 11/1 polls inserted chronologically
...and I broke the 11/9 - 11/14 Pew poll into two, (3-day) polls

(Example methodology for this chart will be on my profile page)


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[Sprite518]

I don't think Cain's lead really fell despite what the Rats in the Media and Press told us.

They are trying to protect their credibility by admitting Romney is really not popular with at least 75% at best that DO NOT support the flip flopping liberal from Massachusetts.

[xzins]

It is not hating Cain to point out that a poll was taken either before or during the allegations problem. That is only common sense. And straw polls are not very effective at demonstrating other than intensity of support, not a random sampling of support demonstrating a statistical picture of the actual landscape.

I wouldn’t put faith in any poll about any candidate that had issues that weren’t fairly discussed in light of reality.

[hocndoc]

Gingrich 24%, Romney 20%, Cain 17%, Perry 11%, Paul 9%.