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1 posted on 11/21/2011 3:07:09 PM PST by Steelfish
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http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-gingrich-child-labor-20111121,0,6466282.story

If only the MSM vetted Obama by as little as 10% of how they vet GOP frontrunners


2 posted on 11/21/2011 3:09:13 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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Kids having to work? Oh, the huge manatee.


3 posted on 11/21/2011 3:11:43 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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He’s done.


4 posted on 11/21/2011 3:11:47 PM PST by Krankor
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I’m all for it. Idle hands are the devil’s workshop. Most kids today are so spoiled they turn to drugs and other felonious activities out of sheer boredom. All that energy and (usually) single mom is no where to be seen and supervise. Used to be children were too tired from farm work to get into malevolent deeds.

Nowadays your average white middle class neighborhood is loaded with divorced “soccer moms” where dad has been pushed away through parental alienation tactics and is viewed as merely a wallet to spoil the children as they please.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 3:12:27 PM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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That’s how it used to work. One of the problems with children/young teenagers is that, unless they can work in a family business, they have to wait for so long before they have responsible work that all their enthusiasm evaporates. Give them a couple of hours (paid) for sweeping the hallways, etc. Kids around the age of 12 or so really want to show what they can do, and with poor kids in particular, you have to get to them before they fall prey to other temptations.

We used to dig snow for the super every winter; we weren’t on the building’s payroll, but we were on his! And it was a great thing all around.


6 posted on 11/21/2011 3:12:42 PM PST by livius
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I’m sure he was talking about 17-18yo HS students.
This is just a Janitors for Justice hit piece.


7 posted on 11/21/2011 3:15:50 PM PST by Zathras
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As much as I dislike Newtie I actually agree with him to some extent on this one. Child labor laws went from necessary to ridiculous.


8 posted on 11/21/2011 3:15:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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In Japan the students are expected to help keep the school clean.

What does the MSM have against the Japanese Education System?


9 posted on 11/21/2011 3:19:40 PM PST by GraceG
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Child Labor Pictures, Images and Photos foot in mouth Pictures, Images and Photos
10 posted on 11/21/2011 3:19:52 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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I am old enough to remember when they let us out of school in the spring to chop cotton and lay the crop by. Then back to school until the fall, when let out to pick the cotton, then back to school for the winter.

It never hurt us to work from dawn to dusk and instilled the work ethic, which served me in good stead for rest of my working life.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 3:20:05 PM PST by Sea Parrot (%)
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12-15 years old, I started mowing lawns, caddying and was carrying doubles at the Country Club at the end. Made for a long day on some days. And some of those Doctors had bags like Rodney Dangerfield in Caddyshack. Started working in the tubs at a local Car Wash to earn money for my first car (which was in the driveway when I was 15 and a half) and never been without a job since. Shoveled snow in the winter and that don’t count cleaning the ponds for hockey.

Kids today wouldn’t be able to do any of those things.

Oh. And I used to walk to school for two miles. Uphill, both ways.


12 posted on 11/21/2011 3:20:16 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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****“It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, in child laws, which are truly stupid,” he said.****

We had a guest woman speaker at the college I went to say the very same thing, way back in 1971.


15 posted on 11/21/2011 3:32:07 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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““Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they’d have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”

Excellent for learning and achieving AUTHENTIC self-esteem!


18 posted on 11/21/2011 3:35:58 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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We absolutley need to start an OCCUPY THE MEDIA movement. They need to be locked out, and barred from their offices. They are pure filth and destroying our democracy because NOTHING they do has anything to do with Freedom of Speech, they intrepret it as Freedom to lie.

THIS IS WHAT GINGRICH SAID:

“It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid,” said the former House speaker, according to CNN. “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”


19 posted on 11/21/2011 3:39:57 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Steelfish; Past Your Eyes; Krankor; AbolishCSEU; livius; Zathras; cripplecreek; GraceG; ...

Child Labor laws had the same three origins as most of today’s systemic ills:

1) The humanitarianism and moralizing of the 1880’s religious revival (nothing was done about it)

2) The political idealism of the Progressives 1900’s-1920’s (some small concessions and curbing of abuses were made)

3) As a New Deal “solution” to the economic disaster of the Great Depression as a way to reduce the labor pool and preserve jobs for a single breadwinner per family. This became official and permanent societal doctrine and norm with a full range of pervasive sociological propaganda, true and semi-true. (Women were also forced out of factories and back to the city home at the same time for the short period between the roaring 20’s and WWII for the same reason - job rationing.)

Long after abuses were curbed and the reasons for the expediency are gone however, the policy remains in force due to an alliance of left and right, regardless of any ancillary and deleterious effects - delayed adulthood, loss of work ethic, counter-culture etc.

Bet I explain it better than Newt :-)


23 posted on 11/21/2011 4:18:46 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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Right or wrong, this guy just can't stay "on message."

He can't resist throwing things out there, whether they relate to what's important to voters or not, whether they help his candidacy or not.

And that's not a good sign.

32 posted on 11/21/2011 5:10:48 PM PST by x
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