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To: Scoutmaster
Comments from anyone attending the game? Anyone? Bueler? Bueler?

Well I was at the game and I can say with certainty that damn near everything posted about the fans support for abused children is pure BS. I saw the sign and person in question and while I didn't witness the incident described (there were 110 K people there- you are bound to get one or two asshats a la the tea party) there was overwhelming support for the victims.Penn State alums have proven to be the most generous when it comes to charitable donations to all charities.To hear them (the 99%+of alums) described as justifying pedophilia because it hurts their beloved Nittany Lions is beyond the pale. A trial hasn't even been held yet!

People here as a guilty as the MSM is vis a vis the tea party. Most are arguing from their own conclusions and using isolated fringe elements to support their already formed and unfounded beliefs. To hear liberal loonies in the press do it is one thing. I would have expected better from my brother and sister freepers.

I hope PSU is offered a bowl game and I would vote 100% yes for them to accept it. To do otherwise is to punish the kids who had nothing to do with this. Caveat: if it is proven that PSU is complicit, they should forfeit 100% of their bowl money to abused children.

67 posted on 11/21/2011 4:23:53 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey (Is it too late to save the country?)
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To: Sir_Humphrey; Colofornian; dfwgator; mojito; Talisker; decimon; Jeff Head
It wasn't an incident. It was multiple incidents.

The original blue-out was to show support for Paterno. Remember that? Only after cooler heads prevailed did they decide that the same blue-out would be 'for the children." Which allowed everyone to wear their blue in support of Paterno and say (nudge, nudge) "it's for victims of child abuse; we . .. umm. . . changed the blue from support for Paterno on Friday. Yeah, that's the ticket."

As for "Penn State alums have proven to be the most generous when it comes to charitable donations to all charities," I'm glad to hear it. Is there anything that backs up that Penn State claim?

Unfounded beliefs? Unfounded beliefs? I read the Grand Jury presentment. I was perhaps the first person to post a link to it. Have you read it? Penn State had a problem. What's the basis for your beliefs?

Have you read the comments to any Penn State story, whether one of the dozens on ESPN, or at the New York Times, or anywhere in between? You would be embarrassed by Penn State fans and alumni. To the thousands posting, the only victim here was Paterno.

Do you know what the Penn State football program did to Jerry Sandusky after the 1998 investigation? They accepted his retirement effective at the end of the 1999 season. During 1999, he brought Victim #4 as his fourteen year-old 'date' to each official home game sleepover for the Penn State football team and coaches at Toftrees Golf Resort and Conference Center. Let me repeat this: after Paterno knew about Sandusky and Sandusky was forced out, he was given a year to bring an adolescent boy as his date to the official Penn State pregame sleepovers at Toftrees.

Do you know where they sat (have you read the presentment)? Sandusky and his boy sat at the coaches' table for the pregame banquets. During all of 1998 and 1999.

Did you know Sandusky molested Victim #4 in the showers and room at Toftrees (I'm not going to dignify it with "allegedly")

And that Penn State allowed Sandusky to bring the boy to the Alamo Bowl, where he molested him?

I have this image of Paterno and the other coaches handing Sandusky a gift-wrapped fourteen year-old boy with a card saying "Happy Early Retirement" as they boarded the plane. Sandusky wiping a tear from his eye, saying "gee guys, you didn't have to . . . I was only expecting a watch."

A guilty as the MSM is vis a vis the Tea Party? I respectfully suggest you be objective.

70 posted on 11/21/2011 4:53:41 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
I hope PSU is offered a bowl game and I would vote 100% yes for them to accept it. To do otherwise is to punish the kids who had nothing to do with this.

Get a clue.

A LOT of NCAA sanctions vs. a given university wind up effecting "kids who had nothing to do with" it.

A LOT of family reputations take a big hit from a family "black sheep" -- and the rest of the family "had nothing to do with" the black sheep acting out.

That's what's so hypocritical in these kind of statements.

At Penn State football games, one side says "We are" and the other side says "Penn State."

The "we" is a 'family' identity of sorts.

Hopefully that's fading away a bit.

One of the Penn State profs interviewed on NBC last night said he came out of a building one morning where hundreds if not thousands of Penn State students were...one student yelled "We are" and there was dead silence.

87 posted on 11/22/2011 9:00:09 AM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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