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To: Sir_Humphrey; Colofornian; dfwgator; mojito; Talisker; decimon; Jeff Head
It wasn't an incident. It was multiple incidents.

The original blue-out was to show support for Paterno. Remember that? Only after cooler heads prevailed did they decide that the same blue-out would be 'for the children." Which allowed everyone to wear their blue in support of Paterno and say (nudge, nudge) "it's for victims of child abuse; we . .. umm. . . changed the blue from support for Paterno on Friday. Yeah, that's the ticket."

As for "Penn State alums have proven to be the most generous when it comes to charitable donations to all charities," I'm glad to hear it. Is there anything that backs up that Penn State claim?

Unfounded beliefs? Unfounded beliefs? I read the Grand Jury presentment. I was perhaps the first person to post a link to it. Have you read it? Penn State had a problem. What's the basis for your beliefs?

Have you read the comments to any Penn State story, whether one of the dozens on ESPN, or at the New York Times, or anywhere in between? You would be embarrassed by Penn State fans and alumni. To the thousands posting, the only victim here was Paterno.

Do you know what the Penn State football program did to Jerry Sandusky after the 1998 investigation? They accepted his retirement effective at the end of the 1999 season. During 1999, he brought Victim #4 as his fourteen year-old 'date' to each official home game sleepover for the Penn State football team and coaches at Toftrees Golf Resort and Conference Center. Let me repeat this: after Paterno knew about Sandusky and Sandusky was forced out, he was given a year to bring an adolescent boy as his date to the official Penn State pregame sleepovers at Toftrees.

Do you know where they sat (have you read the presentment)? Sandusky and his boy sat at the coaches' table for the pregame banquets. During all of 1998 and 1999.

Did you know Sandusky molested Victim #4 in the showers and room at Toftrees (I'm not going to dignify it with "allegedly")

And that Penn State allowed Sandusky to bring the boy to the Alamo Bowl, where he molested him?

I have this image of Paterno and the other coaches handing Sandusky a gift-wrapped fourteen year-old boy with a card saying "Happy Early Retirement" as they boarded the plane. Sandusky wiping a tear from his eye, saying "gee guys, you didn't have to . . . I was only expecting a watch."

A guilty as the MSM is vis a vis the Tea Party? I respectfully suggest you be objective.

70 posted on 11/21/2011 4:53:41 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
You obviously didn't understand my post. I am not defending the Penn State coaching staff or the athletic department. They appear to be guilty as hell. And if proven they deserve to have the book thrown at them. Yes, I will use the word allegedly because that is what our criminal justice system is based on; innocent until proven guilty. (Or doesn't that matter anymore?)

As for "unfounded beliefs" I was referring to the smear of Penn State students and alums regarding the fund raising for abused children. I was NOT defending the coaching staff or the university administration. I though I made that abundantly clear.

72 posted on 11/21/2011 5:47:28 PM PST by Sir_Humphrey (Is it too late to save the country?)
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