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Carrie Fisher slams William Shatner's claims Star Trek is better than Star Wars
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 17 Nov 2011 | Mike Larkin

Posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:32 PM PST by smokingfrog

It is the debate that has been raging between generations of science fiction fans.

But Star Trek star William Shatner believed he had delivered the coup de grace two months ago when he delivered a stinging critique he thought proved his franchise was superior.

But there is a new hope for Star Wars fans, as original cast member Carrie Fisher has struck back with a rebuke that could return the Jedi-filled universe back to prominence.

In a somewhat rambling YouTube video, the Princess Leia star let rip on the rival sci fi favourite.

She said: 'They are not in the same league. i mean they have the word star in the title, and there is space travel.

'Where do they go to, Klingon? It just sounds like a laundry detergent.'

The successful actress and author had a list of grievances with the television and movie franchise that she said made it inferior, including lacklustre visuals, make-up, toys and video games.

She said: 'Show me a special effect, maybe they are just effects, they are not called special effects.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: carriefisher; shatner; showbiz; startrek; starwars
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To: smokingfrog

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-PJ

221 posted on 11/19/2011 12:35:05 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: hosepipe

Ming was better than Khan—he was the quintessential evil tyrant usurper. Flash was a better hero—and there was no woman like Dale Arden—or Azura. Spoke was playing Dr. Zarkof I would hope they could bring back Flash Gorden—and do him justice—because he was the first Space Opera.


222 posted on 11/19/2011 12:43:03 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: TheWriterTX

Portman should have gone to school on Carrie Fisher, talked to her. Maybe she did, but it doesn’t show.


223 posted on 11/19/2011 12:57:07 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: VideoDoctor
Two DIFFERENT presentation realities to say the least.

I remember being completely surprised, along with the rest of the theater audience, when the first trailer for the Star Wars ep IV Special Edition was shown prior to another sci-fi movie we were seeing.

It showed a TV, with rapidly approaching X-Wing on the screen and a voice-over saying "This is how an entire generation has experienced Star Wars".

Then the X-Wing flew out of the "TV" screen and into full-movie screen size. It was awesome; there was a collective gasp from the audience followed by massive cheering.
224 posted on 11/19/2011 1:12:10 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: Revolting cat!
I hear Shatner likes his mac and cheese deep fried.


225 posted on 11/19/2011 1:20:38 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: VideoDoctor
>> Star Wars was done on a Hollywood BIG screen budget. Star Wars was made for the huge Panavision metroplex screens. <<

Star Trek is also done on a Hollywood BIG screen budget and made for the huge Panavision metroplex screens. The last Star Trek movie alone cost $150 million to produce and the special effects rival anything Star Wars did. I'll put up Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, The Undiscovered Country, First Contact, and the 2009 film against any Star Wars and they give them a good run for epicness.

>> Star Trek was made for the 19" to 27" display world of television. <<

Star Wars is also made for the 19" to 27" display world of television. Holiday Special anyone? Star Wars: The Clone Wars?

While both the Star Trek and Star Wars movies have been pretty sucessful, Star Trek television shows are classic emmy-awarding material and some of the most memorial TV stories of all time, whereas Star Wars on television is ridiculed and unwatchable.

Carrie Fisher and William Shatner were comparing their entire franchises as a whole, not the first production in each.

226 posted on 11/19/2011 1:34:10 PM PST by BillyBoy (Rick Perry, the governor with a heart... for illegal aliens.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Flash Gorden would be a killer remake.. done right..


227 posted on 11/19/2011 1:50:49 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: smokingfrog
Star Wars is more cinematic, more legendary, but also more remote because it is so big screen and mythic.

Star Trek is closer to its audience, and -- if one can say it about outer space adventures -- more down to earth.

The small screen, and the small budgets of the original series, make it more intimate and -- again, if it makes sense to talk that way about science fiction -- more a part of our own world.

228 posted on 11/19/2011 2:01:08 PM PST by x
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To: hosepipe

I agree—if filmed right Flash Gordon could be a new Star Wars, but it would need to be done with all the magic of modern special effects—with the art of the comic strip. The stories would be good as well—but who could play Flash? What modern star could pull it off? Better yet, who is evil enough to play Ming?


229 posted on 11/19/2011 4:19:56 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: buccaneer81
Season One of Space:1999 was magnificent compared to ST and SW.

I have very little recollection of Space:1999 from my youth. With all the streaming options lately, I went searching to find someplace to watch it, but didn't find anything. Granted the search was not very extensive. Any idea where I can see some Space:1999 episodes now??

230 posted on 11/19/2011 4:27:29 PM PST by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Old Flat Toad
They both blow chunks. Fireball XL5 rules.

The Fireball XL5 theme song is still occupying a few dozen of my neurons.

231 posted on 11/19/2011 4:31:43 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Yeah, Star Wars has Jar Jar Binks — top that Star Trek! < /s

Have you ever seen a Star Trek character in the meat section?


232 posted on 11/19/2011 4:55:51 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Never Again! Except for the next time.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Do you find that in the deli section? Is it like corned beef?


233 posted on 11/19/2011 5:37:14 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: tanknetter

Why does everyone hate “Spock’s Brain”? I thought it was a cool episode. I’ll admit I couldn’t figure out how his brain would “fit” into that rectangular black box. Seems like they would have to squeeze it in. I loved McCoy’s face when he’s getting the knowledge from the “teacher” helmet. One of DeForest Kelley’s best performances. “A CHILD could do it!” It was nice of McCoy to replace the top of Spock’s head after putting the brain back in and neatly comb his hair, too.


234 posted on 11/19/2011 6:25:15 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: gymbeau
Geez, 213 posts and no one has mentioned Dr. Who? Not saying it’s the best, but it shouldn’t be ignored.

LOL! I was staying within the ST / SW argument, but you're right. Dr. Who is an exceptional show.

I'm still having trouble accepting the 10th Dr. I guess I just liked David Tennant too much.

235 posted on 11/19/2011 6:26:33 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the law of Man)
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To: boop

My absolute favorite Star Trek was The Journey Home. My favorite moment was when the orca-ologist (I know, I know) jumped on Kirk as he was about to transport inside the Bird of Prey with the line “You didn’t think I was going to let you take George and Gracy without me, did ya?” And she goes into the future Federation Universe.


236 posted on 11/19/2011 6:31:40 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: 101voodoo

My dad watched a show from the ‘50s called Tom Corbett, Space Cadet. Now THAT was low budget cheese!. Although the real Tom Corbett is a pretty good governor.


237 posted on 11/19/2011 6:32:00 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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But clearly, Dr. Who is the all-time greatest, and it’s still running!


238 posted on 11/19/2011 6:35:15 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: smokingfrog

Star Trek is superior. Star Wars is for four year olds. Star Wars is for grown ups. :-)


239 posted on 11/19/2011 6:35:28 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: driftless2

Good point that I hadn’t considered! “The Way to Eden” is very apt, even today. A bunch of mush headed hippies being led by some insane old guy with kooky ideas about a Utopia. And when the find their “paradise” it turns out to be poisonous and deadly. Those “hippies” probably became conservatives after that!


240 posted on 11/19/2011 6:39:28 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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