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Thoughts on Joe Paterno
11/11/11 | Repulican Donkey

Posted on 11/11/2011 7:01:03 AM PST by Repulican Donkey

So, the Pennsylvania Attorney General is Asking Why Paterno Was Fired. It does seem odd, doesn't it? As the AG puts it, a co-operating, uncharged and unindicted witness gets canned while two indicted PSU employees have PSU paying their defense costs. McQueary is still on the job andsome idiots were actually going to allow him to coach after Paterno was fired.

The Paterno firing stinks to high heaven. He was tried and convicted in the court of ESPN for not calling the police; the state police commissioner's comments were hung on Paterno. Without the Paterno story ESPN would have had nothing to fill its air time. All this was happening when the record showed that Paterno had reported the incident to the guy who was in charge of the campus police but who never acted and who is currently indicted.

It appears to this reader that PSU has two objectives. The first is to limit its financial exposure in any civil settlement. The second is to get rid of a coach for the crime of being old.

For PSU the Sandusky scandal is a convenient excuse. PSU knows Paterno is innocent of all the gossip. They would not have fired him otherwise. He would be on "administrative leave" so they could keep him on a short leash. PSU was so desperate to keep Paterno quiet they squashed his news conference, probably promising him he could retire at the end of the season. Whey he agreed, they canned him anyway.

Paterno's firing is about money. PSU's football program is worth $50 million. That's chump change compared to most Big 10 schools. Nebraska's is worth more. Paterno made $1 million, and that's chump change as well. Mack Brown makes about three times that and doesn't have to stand in the snow.

Urban Meyer will be the next coach. ESPN was talking about him already having a house near PSU days before the firing but claiming it was just coincidence. What person worth millions decides to leave Florida and buy a house in PA just for grins? Meyer will make much more than Paterno. The side-line token bimbo on will have a more cooperative interview than she had with Paterno. ESPN / ABC will have a hook for more viewers. College football will continue its charade as a sport instead of a cash cow business. Unless PSU decidesd otherwise, students there will always be able to go to the Joe Paterno Library.

Personally, I'm done with NCAA football. At least the NFL admits it is a cut throat business. On 1/1/13, after the Rose Parade, I'll be switching to the Twilight Zone marathon.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: joepaterno; paterno; pedstate; pennstate; psu; vanity
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To: Repulican Donkey

There seem to be two sides on this. A dozen or more child victims of sexual abuse, rape, possibly torture. A group of grown men for whom the horrific abuse of these children was less important than preserving their dynasty.

We see the side you have chosen. Evil.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 7:18:48 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Repulican Donkey

There seem to be two sides on this. A dozen or more child victims of sexual abuse, rape, possibly torture. A group of grown men for whom the horrific abuse of these children was less important than preserving their dynasty.

We see the side you have chosen. Evil.


22 posted on 11/11/2011 7:20:00 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: John Valentine
It was then up to PSU officials to act. They did not. Is that Paterno's fault?

That Jerry Sandusky was allowed into the Penn State athletic facilities with young boys as recently as a week before he was indicted rest solely on Joe' shoulders IMO. Jpe could (have) thrown the Governor of PA out of his lockeroom and no one would ask questions.

23 posted on 11/11/2011 7:20:08 AM PST by IamConservative (Government is the only institution that can add ink to paper and make both worth less.)
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To: MEGoody
(i.e. the guy who actually witnessed a child rape and didn’t go immediately to the police).

I am wondering why, if one is witnessing a child being raped in the shower, doesn't one first intervene, stop the rape, then call the police?

24 posted on 11/11/2011 7:20:18 AM PST by bubbacluck (Proud Hobbit with no intention of going back to Middle Earth.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

You basically have everything 180 degrees backward....

Do yourself a favor and go read the Grand Jury Indictment.


25 posted on 11/11/2011 7:21:17 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: John Valentine

What would do, if someone came to you and said it was happening to YOUR son? Would you just report it to responsible officials, and let them handle it?


26 posted on 11/11/2011 7:21:41 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

The first is to limit its financial exposure in any civil settlement

Are you mad? How does firing Paterno accomplish that? I bet Penn State (or probably the tax payers of Penn) end up paying half a billion. Paterno DESTROYED football at Penn State.


27 posted on 11/11/2011 7:22:13 AM PST by DManA
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To: John Valentine

Sandusky Fu**ed children is THE PUBLIC SHOWERS FOR 15 YEARS. Do you think he has some reason to think it was safe to do that?


28 posted on 11/11/2011 7:23:55 AM PST by DManA
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To: John Valentine
Or, the actual witness could have or I might say SHOULD have reported what he saw with his own eyes (no hearsay) to the police. He did not. Is that Paterno's fault too?

Upon hearing McQueary's account of what he saw Sandusky doing, why didn't Joe Paterno tell McQueary to call the police?

29 posted on 11/11/2011 7:25:06 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Repulican Donkey

JoePa is not a scapegoat. He KNEW. He failed a moral test. Furthermore, it is a consequence of command responsibility.

Spanier had to go. He knew or should have known. Worse, he may even have facilitated.

Where I think your frustration lies is in the fact that PSU wishes that by offering these two up as sacrificial goats, the problem will go away. You intuit that there are other, more guilty parties that will go unexposed and unpunished while a living legend is destroyed. I think you are correct there.

This is a problem that went on for many years and is much bigger than we have have been led to believe. I think there is an underground of weird, sick stuff going on within the faculty and the surrounding community, and that there are likely multiple perderasts who availed themselves of the fruits of Coach Sandusky’s operation.

I’m normally one who detests witch hunts, but I am just about to break out the torches and pitchforks and head to State College. This needs to be rooted out and burned, root and branch.


30 posted on 11/11/2011 7:25:33 AM PST by SargeK
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To: liege

Thank you..I am wodering why, upon witnessing the rape, one wouldn’t take the perp by the collar and introduce the back of his skull to the wall a few times.


31 posted on 11/11/2011 7:25:39 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Repulican Donkey
Personally, I'm done with NCAA football.

What a coincidence.

You also seem to be done with honor, charity to the most innocent, adult responsibility, common human decency, and Christian morality.

By the way, are you John Ziegler?

Don't worry, I expect your answer to be a lie.

32 posted on 11/11/2011 7:26:00 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

If Paterno reported what he knew at the time and nothing happened to Sandusky, Paterno had at least a moral obligation to pursue it. If McQueary had reported it immediately to the police it is likely several boys could have been kept from harm. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone involved and it is clear from the grand jury report stinking Joe was well aware what was happening and turned a blind eye.


33 posted on 11/11/2011 7:26:36 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: Repulican Donkey
Wrong question.

Proper question: "Why have Curley and Schultz not been fired yet?"

I am hoping the answer will soon be: "They have."

34 posted on 11/11/2011 7:27:56 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: John Valentine
BS. Paterno did nothing of the kind. Based on the word of an self-professed witness (Paterno himself had NO direct knowledge), he reported what he had been told to the responsible officials at the University, as he was required to do.

But he did not report directly to law enforcement which he, as a coach, is required to do under both Pennsylvania and Federal law.

For second hand information? - Yes, if it is at all credible even for second hand information.

Don't wanna play by them rules? - get another profession.

35 posted on 11/11/2011 7:32:59 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

Donkey ... don’t you mean Jackass


36 posted on 11/11/2011 7:33:14 AM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

You need to look at the Grand Jury testimony. Parts of it are available on Drudge. I advise you to do it on an empty stomach.

This is NOT my country any longer.


37 posted on 11/11/2011 7:33:34 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: RightFighter; Repulican Donkey
This is one of the most ill-informed, useless rants that I’ve ever read on FreeRepublic.

Bears repeating.

38 posted on 11/11/2011 7:35:07 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: John Valentine

Paterno’s own grand jury testimony states that there was innappropriate physical contact between Sandusky & the boy. That is what Paterno reported to the Penn State AD. Morally <and I think legally) he should have reported the incident to police & Child Protective Services. Paterno did not.


39 posted on 11/11/2011 7:35:39 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Repulican Donkey

Not a football fan nor do I know anything about Penn state

But I have seen similar scandals before, and Penn State’s reaction shows that indeed, football program was an empire unto itself, and that presently, the university leadership is in total chaos. No one knows what to do next.


40 posted on 11/11/2011 7:35:50 AM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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