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The Cold Fusion Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles

http://ecatnews.com/?p=1251&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ecatnews%2FAdFD+%28+%C2%BB+eCatNews+-+Rossi%E2%80%99s+Cold+Fusion+2.0%29

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Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps, created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos, bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos.

Did he convince a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam?

Has he convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow?

Who arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real, got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field, got Bushnell to make a fool of himself, sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam.

Was he certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan – the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table? He has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes and knows that they will just take his word for it and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!)

In order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out – then all bets are off.

I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses .

1 posted on 11/06/2011 10:03:13 PM PST by Kevmo
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Lancey Howard; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; ...

The Cold Fusion Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles

http://ecatnews.com/?p=1251&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ecatnews%2FAdFD+%28+%C2%BB+eCatNews+-+Rossi%E2%80%99s+Cold+Fusion+2.0%29

Note that I posted the Wired.com story but it was pulled. The excerpt & link thread says to excerpt wired.com and that’s what I did. The admin moderator says the reason it was pulled was “wired”.

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/2803457/posts

This thread has been pulled.

Pulled on 11/06/2011 4:23:31 PM PST by Admin Moderator, reason:

wired

Okay


2 posted on 11/06/2011 10:06:13 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
"...the ranks of those taking a hopeful stance while waiting for real proof is growing."

That's where I've been since this story first broke. Hopeful, but withholding judgment until I see real proof.

3 posted on 11/06/2011 10:08:12 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kevmo

Jeez, do you have to post this diatribe with every e cat article? Okay already, I have seen it a dozen times already.

Here’s my take. Let us hope its real...why not? Let us hope entrepreneurs continue coming up with wild and impossible sounding ideas and bring them to fruition. His side kick Focadi (sp?) is the science behind the device, Rossi is the tinkering idea man...

We will know soon enough whether its a fraud or something real. Now if its a FRAUD, I will come here on Free Republic and say—yup, I was wrong about the whole thing and I got suckered. It was a Fraud.

But Kevmo, if Rossi is real, will you do the same?

regards


4 posted on 11/06/2011 10:09:58 PM PST by abigkahuna
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To: Kevmo

Some of the media outlets like MSNBC and CBS used a blog post from the same source. The Forbes article was a blog post by a Network World columnist. Not as impressive as it may seem at first.


7 posted on 11/06/2011 10:30:39 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
Despite the lie that sites such as eCatNews.com are dominated by believers, the ranks of those taking a hopeful stance while waiting for real proof is growing.

That's how Obama got elected.

8 posted on 11/06/2011 10:32:17 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo
We all know that we do not have the proof required but the complex contortions required to construct a cohesive narrative that does not involve the possibility that Rossi is telling the truth are becoming as incredulous as that simple possibility.

That, my friends, is genuine frontier gibberish. No more calls, please, we have FR's worst-written sentence of the day.

16 posted on 11/06/2011 11:51:12 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Kevmo

Was this article written by a native English-speaker?

There’s a two-word solution Rossi could use to immediately dispel all doubts about his invention: PEER REVIEW.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 12:16:47 AM PST by dinodino
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To: Kevmo
Since Kevmo is only posting the "puff" pieces about Rossi, I thought it would be a good idea to post some of the information about Rossi that he doesn't want you to see:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dandrea%2Brossi%2Bpetroldragon%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1384%26bih%3D876%26tbs%3Dcdr:1,cd_min:1/1/1900,cd_max:12/31/2010%26prmd%3Dimvnso&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&twu=1&u=http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/1992/gennaio/08/PETROL_DRAGON_per_titolare_guai_co_7_9201081368.shtml&usg=ALkJrhhF9pDxm9v-kehpDELYixUZVw9Bmg

This article appears to be about criminal charges against Rossi for filing false invoices to take advantage of a "Law on the earthquake" (Earthquake-related subsidy?)

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dandrea%2Brossi%2Bpetroldragon%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1384%26bih%3D876%26tbs%3Dcdr:1,cd_min:1/1/1900,cd_max:12/31/2010%26prmd%3Dimvnso&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&twu=1&u=http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/1994/marzo/09/petrolio_dai_rifiuti_inservibile_tossico_co_0_94030910061.shtml&usg=ALkJrhgXc3rY5p0XyvoUR3OKXbJgiy8uvw

This one is about the toxic waste from Rossi's alleged "garbage to oil" invention. According to this article, the "output" from Rossi's process was no more than 3% hydrocarbons. It appears that this was a syndicate of Rossi's company and several to dump their toxic waste by claiming that Rossi was converting it to fuel.

There is an article floating around that makes it sound like Rossi was an innocent victim of a conspiracy between the Italian government and the Mafio to shut down his legitimate business. Note that this article is nothing more or less than Rossi's defense in his trial. If you always believe whatever the defendant in a trial says, then you should believe Rossi.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dandrea%2Brossi%2Bpetroldragon%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1384%26bih%3D876%26tbs%3Dcdr:1,cd_min:1/1/1900,cd_max:12/31/2010%26prmd%3Dimvnso&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&twu=1&u=http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/1996/marzo/13/Petrol_Dragon_Silos_veleni_sequestrati_co_0_96031313857.shtml&usg=ALkJrhgGvvDYw4Cnl_KNxdsPFk2GRX9cEQ
According to this article, Rossi's "process" for converting garbage into fuel was to "mix the waste with lime" before sending it to the dump site.
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dandrea%2Brossi%2Bpetroldragon%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1384%26bih%3D876%26tbs%3Dcdr:1,cd_min:1/1/1900,cd_max:12/31/2010%26prmd%3Dimvnso&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&twu=1&u=http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/1996/febbraio/20/Andrea_Rossi_gioielli_guai_co_0_9602206339.shtml&usg=ALkJrhi0K4_c5emZwMMYxUEMz-O_oInX0A
Here's an article about Rossi's gold scam. Fake invoices for shipping gold that never arrived at it's destination.
http://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo(2004).pdf

This one is particularly interesting. Rossi sold the U. S. Army on his "invention" of a vastly more efficient Thermo-Electric (TE) Power Generator" that would convert waste heat into electricity.

"Dr." Rossi (notice that the Army thought, for some reason, that Rossi was a "Dr.") could improve the efficiency of these devices from "the current science of 4%" to 20%

Rossi produces a small-scale device, which appeared to show this dramatic increase in efficiency. (Although, as is typical of Rossi's demos, the testing methodology appears to be flawed. They only took measurements "every 1/2 hour", leaving as unanswered what the device was doing when no one was actually monitoring it.)

After this demo, Rossi's factory burned down, and Rossi left the country. He claimed that it would be more "cost effective" to build the actual devices in Italy.

None of the devices produced by Rossi worked. 19 of the 27 devices were totally incapable of generating electricity "for a variety of reasons." The remaining devices produced only 1 Watt of power, not only significantly less than the results promised by Rossi (800 - 1000 Watts), but less than the exiting technology provided. In other words, they didn't even work as well as devices he could have bought off the shelf.

The report carefully avoids drawing any conclusions about Rossi's involvement in this. I suspect that is because it doesn't help a military man's career by admitting that he was the victim of a con artist.


20 posted on 11/07/2011 12:50:04 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Kevmo

How long did it take for the wise climate scientists interested only in the health and future of the world’s citizens to be shown for the money and power-grubbing, data manipulating, falsifying, intimidating men behind the curtain that they are?


22 posted on 11/07/2011 1:06:54 AM PST by aruanan
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