*Ping* for your list.
I just heard about a device called a ‘podunk carbuerator’ and if you send in $10 they will send you the plans- the oil companies don’t want you to buy it because it gets 100 miles to the gallon
As with so much of Rossi’s so called data and demonstrated proof, this is gobbledy gook of the worst sort. He has accomplished nothing until it is repeatable by independent scientists. Good luck with that
“E-cat as a water or building heating system”
Think of the leading suppliers of building automation who are now very heavily involved in energy efficiency improvements:
Honeywell
Schneider Electric
Emerson
Siemens
Johnson Controls
All could be good partners for ECAT merely as a heat source if it were more efficient than other fuels, aside from any power generating capacity. Half of all energy is consumed for commercial and industrial purposes, and a good chunk of that is for heating.
If the DoD were a buyer, it would be under a non-disclosure agreement.
Saying that the customer needed the device for "remote camps" would be a violation of any NDA and an automatic deal-breaker.
Rossi is a lying jailbird running a scam.
That is blisteringly obvious to anyone who has avoided the Kool-Aid.
The only part of the article worth reading.
The only flaw in your logic is this:
“The basic point of the military is to protect American citizens and their interests.”
The US military is under the command of a marxist moslem, who has no business ordering troops to be in Libya or Uganda.
But the other point is that those who are convinced that this whole thing is a fraud, will never give it a rest. Small minds have nothing better to do.
As expected, the whole thing is dissolving into a farce.
I really can’t see this thing as being operational without having been regulated out of existence by various government entities.
The fact that the “customer” is anonymous shows it’s a scam. If it was somebody that really needed to keep secrets there never would have been the “public” test, if it was somebody being OK with the test being open they wouldn’t need to keep secrets. Rossi is a scammer, cold fusion doesn’t work on any useful scale, those are the facts. This was all a fake dog and pony show to encourage investors, who will never see a ROI.
Virtually every expensive system that I have ever purchased came with a warranty.
I always relied upon either getting a detailed operating and service manual or knowing that the seller had in place a mechanism for accomplishing warranty repairs.
Let's put ourselves into the shoes of the purchaser of Rossi's E-Cat.
The purchaser watched Rossi operate the system and verified its key specification of outputting more energy than was pumped in.
Now we can picture the purchaser boxing up the system and moving it to a location chosen by the purchaser. Perhaps the "storage container", if that is what it was, constituted sufficient packaging. I would assume, since it was claimed as necessary for safety, that the 500 kw generator set was included in the package purchased. (Or perhaps the customer would have to supply his own 500 kw generator.)
Once the packages have arrived at the customer's site, it will be necessary to "install" them. Perhaps only a few connections have to be made, since the package didn't have to be disassembled prior to shipment.
What could possibly go wrong?
Rossi must have supplied an operating and maintenance manual. It details what to check prior to turning on the system. How to determine whether its time to replenish the "catalyst". Whether excess amounts of "waste products", like copper, must be removed prior to operation.
Perhaps supplies of "catalyst" must be purchased from Rossi, like razor blades for safety razors.
Finally comes the time when the purchaser, rather than Rossi, intends to operate the unit. The detailed procedure is followed and then ... what happens?
If no excess energy is created, what will happen? How soon will it happen? What recourse will the purchaser have?
The purchaser will be completely reliant upon Rossi to get the system working. The vast majority of the technical world believes that it is impossible for the unit to work. It would be impractical to ask such a person to make operable a system for which such a person has no theory that would permit it to operate.
If the purchaser attempted to employ the claimed thousands who have demonstrated LENR, even they would be disadvantaged, because they don't know anything about Rossi's "secret sauce".
Now imagine how easily Rossi would be able to justify not being able to solve the purchaser's problem immediately. The purchaser bought a system which Rossi had "advertised" as being able to produce 1 Mw, but Rossi was only able to produce 470 kw. The uncertainty in the power output of the unit is greater than its demonstrated output power.
Who would be surprised if the new owner is unsuccessful at being able to operate the system? I predict even more interesting developments ahead.
A Sober Look At 1MW eCat Clues
admin on November 3, 2011 — 62 Comments
Fox News stirred up a a lot of dust and while we have to question their guess about the 1MW eCat customer having a US Naval connection, the identity of that customer is critical when trying to pin credibility or otherwise onto the sale. I am certain that if we learned that NATO, NASA, The US Navy or any other similarly large institution with technical roots was known to have tested and then bought the 1MW device, many people around the world who should take notice, will. For that reason, it is worthwhile trying to thread what we think we have.
First we have Fox’s assertion that Andrea Rossi said that Paul Swanson of SPAWAR can vouch for the demo. Then Fox said that Sterling Allan thought a large organisation beginning with the letter ‘N’ was the customer. In the previous post, you can see that this statement is not true. Sterling was referring to a previous and independent test (of what, I am not sure).
During the Bologna test, the customer rep in charge of signing the pass/fail slip was (according to Dr Rossi) a NATO engineer with thirty years experience called, Domenico Fioravanti. Perhaps he was now a civilian acting as a consultant able to speak the language or perhaps the buy was a joint enterprise between NATO countries with SPAWAR taking a keen interest.
Peswiki’s excellent coverage of the 1MW test has so much information that it is easy to overlook little nuggets. Thanks to Don Witcher for pointing out the following from Hank Mills’ write up of that day:
Rossi has stated in an email that, “THE CUSTOMER HAS BOUGHT THE E-CAT AS A MOBILE HEATER FOR REMOTE CAMPS.” This seems to indicate to me that the organization may be related to the military. Also, Rossi’s remark that it is the kind of company that does *everything* in secret, seems to add credence to that possibility.
And then we have the following from the sluething eye of Terry Blanton on Vortex:
Domenico
August 4th, 2011 at 4:40 PM
Egregio ing. Rossi
(If you already have answered this question previously in your blog, please apologise) – What are the risks of an E-Cat in operation being damaged/destroyed by a collapsing building (e.g. earthquake), by shieldbreaking firearm bullets or explosives (never underestimate human madness or stupidity), by floods/tsunamis or other destructive action, in terms of gamma ray exposure intensity and duration?
Thank you – in your work lies hope of many people.
Cordialmente
Domenico
Andrea Rossi
August 5th, 2011 at 8:48 AM
Dear Mr Domenico:
The risk is zero, because we do not use radioactive material and we do not produce radioactive wastes. In all the cases you listed H is cut. If the temperature rises too high, Nickel melts, powder becomes ingot and the process is stopped: intrinsecally safe situation.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
It may be a thread of coincidence. Many experienced engineers leave the military and work outside it. There are lots of Domenico’s around and the person calling himself that and asking about armour-piercing shells and explosives blowing the eCat up, may just be erring on caution or asking out of curiosity. Remember, it seems that the customer in question stepped in after the initial deal fell through (because Rossi did not want to retain ownership and ship it under his name after the sale). Such a scenario fits the timescale and we may be seeing a dipping toe in that Domenico-Post on AR’s blog.
Even so, many NGOs would benefit from an emergency heating system that would not destroy the environment if struck by an earthquake or shot at. Perhaps Andrea Rossi was wrongly quoted regarding Paul Swanson’s ability to vouch for the demo. Perhaps it is all a Nancy Drew misdirection. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.
Once more, no single thing proves the customer has a military connection but together, it kinda makes sense (until it’s all shot down again). I wonder if Dr Rossi is both grateful to the customer for stepping in and at the same time frustrated at not being able to shout it from the rooftops. He had almost certainly imagined the floodgates begin to open by now.
Once again, the list of actors grows making the idea of Rossi being a lone con-man seem more ridiculous than the notion that he has solved the cold fusion puzzle.