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Dave's Take on Occupy Wall Street (Dave Ramsey)
Dave Ramsey Web Site ^ | 11/1/11 | Dave Ramsey

Posted on 11/02/2011 8:02:54 AM PDT by CSM

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1 posted on 11/02/2011 8:02:58 AM PDT by CSM
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma; CottonBall; TenthAmendmentChampion; Chickensoup; JDoutrider; ...

Hi all, I know it has been a long time, but I have been very busy and was even on vacation for awhile. I hope you are all “better than you deserve.”

On his October 19th show, Dave took callers that are supportive of OWS and for the most part he walked them into their own ignorance. If you want some good entertainment, I would highly recommend listening to that show!

Take care and keep working hard.

Dave Ramsey Fan Ping List.

If you would like to be added to the “Live like no one else, so that you can LIVE like no one else” list, feel free to Freepmail me.


2 posted on 11/02/2011 8:05:49 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM

You’ve gotta love Dave. I listen to him often, and all my stuff’s paid for.


3 posted on 11/02/2011 8:10:05 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: CSM

Right on! It’s just about I want I want gimmie gimmie and I don’t want to pay for it.


4 posted on 11/02/2011 8:11:56 AM PDT by mk2000
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To: CSM

“... I’m not impressed by your temper fit. I’m not impressed at your lack of goals and focus. I’m not impressed by the fact that the only thing I see about your movement is ignorance, immaturity and envy. Grow up—and get a job.”

All this is just what the parents of these OWS losers should have drummed into their heads a very long time ago.


5 posted on 11/02/2011 8:13:19 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: CSM
We should stop calling this protest "Occupy Wall Street".

Obama has been using these to drum up sympathy for his cause, and it's time to make him own them.

Start calling them what they really are:

Obamaville

Spread the meme....

6 posted on 11/02/2011 8:20:32 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: CSM
At the core of this demand is envy. And that's not the same as jealousy. Jealousy just says, "I want what you have." Envy is a different beast. Envy says, "I don't think I can ever have what you have, so you shouldn't have it either."

One of the most profound statements I've heard from Saint Ramsey.

7 posted on 11/02/2011 8:24:47 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

Yep, jealousy can be motivating but envy can only be destructive. What we are seeing in society today is the precise reason that the church designated it as one of the 7 deadly sins!


8 posted on 11/02/2011 8:34:58 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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A lot of people on Twitter are saying I totally agree with the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) demands and goals. The only problem is that I have no idea what their demands and goals are. And neither does anyone else.

Dear Dave:

You are just not doing your research and in this case you are just dead wrong. The demands and goals of the OWS movement are well known to some if not most of us and are easily found with just a little searching. You need to do your homework before you start spouting such nonsense.

Take a look at The 99 Percent Declaration web page and you will see the plans and the demands and goals of the OWS movement. It's no secret. Google is your friend.

9 posted on 11/02/2011 8:39:25 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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I’d never made that connection between Envy and Jealous before. I’ve often been jealous of other people. But, to the best of my knowledge my feelings have been along the lines of “I wish I had a (car, plane, boat, house, vacation, etc), too”.

To the best of my knowledge, I don’t believe the thought of “I can’t have it - so you shouldn’t have it either” has ever crossed my mind. Even as a child.


10 posted on 11/02/2011 8:59:42 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: InterceptPoint; All; CSM

“BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that IF the PETITION OF GRIEVANCES approved by the 870 Delegates of the NATIONAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY in consultation with the PEOPLE, is not acted upon within a reasonable time and to the satisfaction of the Delegates of the NATIONAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY, said Delegates shall organize a new INDEPENDENT POLITICAL PARTY to run candidates for every available Congressional seat in the mid-term election of 2014 and again in 2016 until all vestiges of the existing corrupt corporatocracy have been removed by the power of the ballot box.”

Go for it, Kids! And while you’re at it, you can solve ‘The Mystery of the Haunted Mansion’ with Shaggy and Scooby-Doo!

Actually, some of their points make sense to me *GASP* but overall they come off as a bunch of whiny grifters. And that’s got to be REALLY hard to accomplish when the MSM is ON YOUR SIDE!

Tea Party Wanna Bees.


11 posted on 11/02/2011 9:00:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: InterceptPoint
The demands and goals of the OWS movement are well known to some if not most of us and are easily found with just a little searching. You need to do your homework before you start spouting such nonsense.

In Dave's defense, I was recently chastised by a liberal neighbor of mine, when I pointed out these OWS "demands." At the time, she said these were a "work in progress," and that "no official demands existed," blah, blah, blah.

So I've seen a lot of fluidity in their so-called demands, as if they want to say something, but not get themselves in a position where a lot of socialist-Marxist-communist demands become attached to them.

So let me ask you this, how do you know that the link you provided is the one to their "official" list of demands? This OWS group--by their own definition--is leaderless and faceless. There is no one with whom you could negotiate, no official spokesperson.

Just as the rest of us do, Dave knows enough about what these lunatic slugs want...I'd give him a break on this.

12 posted on 11/02/2011 9:17:46 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: CSM; Carry_Okie; hosepipe; Noumenon; Jeff Head
I have my toughest critique for those who believe this: You are a thief. When someone takes my money and gives me no say in the matter, that's called theft—whether they're using a gun or the government. At the core of this demand is envy. And that's not the same as jealousy. Jealousy just says, "I want what you have." Envy is a different beast. Envy says, "I don't think I can ever have what you have, so you shouldn't have it either." Decades of horrible economic teaching and the politics of envy have kept this monster alive and growing and moving forward.

That point is brilliant and very well stated!

13 posted on 11/02/2011 9:22:50 AM PDT by sauropod (William Kristol does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: InterceptPoint
A lot of people on Twitter are saying I totally agree with the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) demands and goals. The only problem is that I have no idea what their demands and goals are. And neither does anyone else.

Dear Dave: You are just not doing your research and in this case you are just dead wrong. The demands and goals of the OWS movement are well known to some if not most of us and are easily found with just a little searching. You need to do your homework before you start spouting such nonsense.

Dave does not say that "demands and goals" do not officially exist. Rather, Dave makes the point that if you surveyed the general OWS protester, they do not understand their own demands and goals. Dave correctly makes the point that himself (and any observer) of OWS protesters has to question their demands and goals, since they are not known to the protesters themselves.

14 posted on 11/02/2011 9:39:08 AM PDT by cilbupeR_eerF
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To: CSM
Dave Ramsey's Take on Occupy Wall Street

Ohh, this should be good!

15 posted on 11/02/2011 9:51:53 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF
Dave does not say that "demands and goals" do not officially exist. Rather, Dave makes the point that if you surveyed the general OWS protester, they do not understand their own demands and goals. Dave correctly makes the point that himself (and any observer) of OWS protesters has to question their demands and goals, since they are not known to the protesters themselves.

I think he's wrong about that.

Are we supposed to depend on the almost childish views of the participants or should we be paying more attention to the organizers of this potentially Marxist revolution? I vote for the latter.

These people hold their "General Assembly" meetings where any of the OWS participants can attend. Are we to assume that "goals and demands" are never discussed at these meetings? I don't think so.

The fact that these dumbos can't express themselves well enough to convey the goals and demands doesn't mean that they don't know what they are. For example, I saw a poll that showed that 40% of the OWS crowd were union members. Does Dave really think they have no idea why they're there?

16 posted on 11/02/2011 9:54:47 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint
The fact that these dumbos can't express themselves well enough to convey the goals and demands doesn't mean that they don't know what they are.

But it would still mean they're not entitled to discuss those goals and demands with rational people.

17 posted on 11/02/2011 10:08:02 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: sauropod

Capitalism is hated by the lazy... BUT
Capitalism is loved by the industrious..


18 posted on 11/02/2011 10:19:13 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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19 posted on 11/02/2011 11:04:14 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: InterceptPoint

Actually he read the OWS litany of all the “this is our one goal” items and you are referencing some google description of the 99 percenter declaration. His point is that they are so disconnected that it does nothing to add clarity to the discussion. You could ask, and he did, supporters of OWS for 3 radio hours and not get one repeat answer from the callers.

You add to the disconnect by providing a link to a 99%er vs. the OWS that he is discussing.


20 posted on 11/02/2011 12:22:44 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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