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Spain: Franco's remains may be exhumed [ valiant fight to stay dead ]
ADNKronos ^ | October 10, 2011 | AKI

Posted on 10/21/2011 12:16:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Spain may dig up the remains of late Fascist dictator Francisco Franco to move them from a sprawling mausoleum to a cemetery, according to a local news report.

A commission of experts hired by the Spanish government is reviewing options on how to deal with the Valley of the Fallen, the burial place near Madrid where Franco is buried and is a controversial pilgrimage destination for Fascist sympathizers.

Franco died in 1975 after emerging as the victor in the three-year Spanish Civil War which ended in 1939.

The Valley of the Fallen holds the remains of more than 30,000 people. It is part of a Catholic basilica. Its construction was Franco's idea and it is said that it was meant to symbolise an act of of national reconciliation.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: exhumation; franciscofranco; godsgravesglyphs; spain
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1 posted on 10/21/2011 12:16:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 10/21/2011 12:17:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: decimon; Renfield; Red Badger

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


3 posted on 10/21/2011 12:18:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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4 posted on 10/21/2011 12:24:23 AM PDT by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: SunkenCiv

They hate him because he defeated them.

Poor Spain. Surely hell awaits those who would defile a hero’s grave.


5 posted on 10/21/2011 12:24:45 AM PDT by Shalmaneser
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To: Cacique

ping


6 posted on 10/21/2011 12:30:23 AM PDT by OddLane (If Lionel Hutz and Guy Smiley had a lovechild together, his name would be "Mitt Romney." -KAJ)
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To: SunkenCiv
They hate Franco even more these days, since the General's economic success is seen as another defeat by the Socialist party, which has left Spain bankrupted after 20 (1982-1996, 2004-2011) years ruling the country.

It is said, con Franco vivíamos mejor, that is, with Franco we lived better.


7 posted on 10/21/2011 12:46:57 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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To: Shalmaneser; SunkenCiv

The Zapatero government has channeled its leftist rabble rousing through a policy referred to as “memoria historica,” sometimes referred to as “memoria histerica” by people who don’t share it.

Zapatero used to go around telling the sad (and largely fictional) story of his grandfather who was on the side of the Communists (oh, excuse me, that would be “Republicans”), blah, blah, blah. He has spent a fortune renaming streets, tearing down statues, rewriting textbooks, and carrying on a campaign of vilification and revenge against the few people who still survive from those years.

The Valley of the Fallen has long been a target of his. There is a Benedictine monastery at the site, and they celebrate masses there on a regular basis, with a particularly huge event on November 25, the date of Franco’s death. The Mass said for national reconciliation and it is normally attended by thousands of people.

For the last couple of years, Zapatero has closed the site, first claiming that the huge underground church was unsafe, and then announcing that it was not legal to have religious services there. The monks simply moved outside and continued to have the masses out of doors, in the snow and wind, and people still came. This place is up in the mountains outside of Madrid and the weather gets quite severe.

Zapatero has done such a lousy job that he has lost the confidence even of his party and new elections (without him as a candidate) have been called for November. So this latest attack on the Valley of the Fallen is a combination of one last parting gesture and an attempt to stir up a little electoral hatred and bloodlust in the left.


8 posted on 10/21/2011 12:54:33 AM PDT by livius
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To: SunkenCiv

Careful research will indicate the Franco is still dead.


9 posted on 10/21/2011 1:19:09 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: livius

something perhaps we shall see in America?


10 posted on 10/21/2011 1:20:28 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: SunkenCiv
The ruling class certainly know how to live ... er, die.


11 posted on 10/21/2011 1:35:29 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: SunkenCiv
Just in time for Halloween.


12 posted on 10/21/2011 1:36:02 AM PDT by Daffynition (“There are no compacts between lions and men, and wolves and lambs have no concord.” ~ Homer)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I visited that place back in ‘72 - it’s quite impressive.


13 posted on 10/21/2011 1:47:25 AM PDT by Loud Mime (The Obama voters are dumber than you think, meaner than you can imagine)
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To: J Aguilar

I need to make up one of those with Obama on it.


14 posted on 10/21/2011 1:48:53 AM PDT by Loud Mime (The Obama voters are dumber than you think, meaner than you can imagine)
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To: Oztrich Boy

It was actually constructed as a monument to the fallen and thousands of persons from both sides are buried there. The monastery exists to pray for peace and reconciliation. Franco was buried there many years after it was built.


15 posted on 10/21/2011 1:54:27 AM PDT by livius
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To: FormerACLUmember
Careful research will indicate the Franco is still dead.

Wait a minute! This popular radical posting may be in error! We need an autopsy to settle this issue!

16 posted on 10/21/2011 2:12:21 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: tdscpa

Regarding Zapatero: it takes a socialist/fascist to know a fascist. Zapatero can have Franco exhumed to make way so he can recycle the plot for his own grave when he croaks. He’s probably jealous of the Franco worship and, like the Muslims with mosques on Christian sites, wants to put his own grave on top of Franco’s.


17 posted on 10/21/2011 3:42:28 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Fascist” my ass. Franco stands far apart from Hitler, Stalin, or Mao. None of those three would dream of putting a CROSS on a monument such as this. Hitler replaced the cross with the swastika, and Stalin and Mao banished religion.


18 posted on 10/21/2011 5:04:45 AM PDT by montag813
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One thing is true: The Spanish Republicans (Communists, actually) were violently anti-Catholic. They murdered priests and abused nuns. They were certainly a greater threat to freedom in Spain than the Nationalists. Had the Nationalist rebellion failed, Spain would have undergone the same torment as eastern Europe and Cuba. Maybe, like Cuba they would still be in thrall to the Communists to this day, long after their patrons in the Soviet Union are gone.


19 posted on 10/21/2011 6:17:57 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: tdscpa

A couple of years ago, judge Baltasar Garzon needed the death certificate in order to stop trying prosecuting General Franco.

A circus.


20 posted on 10/21/2011 7:07:36 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Fiat Justitia et ruat coelum)
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