Posted on 09/24/2011 7:18:54 PM PDT by ak267
After the FoxNews/Google debate, it had begun to crystallize in the view of many Republicans is that Rick Perry isn’t the candidate many had hoped. Capturing the straw poll in Florida on Saturday, Herman Cain reached new heights as Perry’s slide down hill has accelerated. Bachmann has peaked and begun to taper off, while Gingrich, Paul, Santorum and Huntsman continue to struggle in the middle-to-low single digits. This leaves Mitt Romney out front, not because he’s such a great candidate, but because to date, his chief opponents have grossly underperformed. This begs the question most conservatives want most to ask: Is Mitt Romney capable of carrying the conservative banner into battle a year from now? Most conservatives seem to believe the answer is a firm “no,” but it nevertheless leaves Romney in the position of the last candidate standing
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” Gingrich, Paul, Santorum and Huntsman continue to struggle in the middle-to-low single digits. This leaves Mitt Romney out front, not because he’s such a great candidate, but because to date, his chief opponents have grossly underperformed.”
Is it fair to say that Cain has not underperformed? He started from way behind, true. He just took a big step toward a vice-presidential nomination.
“He, Palin, or Christie are the only ones who stand a chance against all these forces.”
Christie may be spunky with the teachers’ union, but he’s not that conservative. He came out publicly in favor of the Ground Zero Mosque and appointed a Muslim judge. That’s a major deal-breaker for me.
“...the nomination in not even decided offically until the Republican Convention next summer.”
Actually, no, that’s what the caucuses and primaries are about, selecting convention delegates on behalf of the various candidates. Once a candidate has the necessary number of delegates, it is over. One could argue that a mass of delegates who started off committed to Romney/Perry/Cain/Bachmann/whomever could switch their allegiance, but that scenario is more than highly unlikely.
In ‘08 it was all but over after Florida. There was no question after that primary that the the nominee was going to be McCain. A few who were already on the Super Tuesday ballot were on the ballot, but effectively not, and then dropped out. Huckabee hung in for his own purposes, maybe hoping McCain would drop dead? Who knows? But there was no way after Florida in ‘08 that anyone else but McCain was going to win it. In ‘00 it was pretty much over in SC when W bested McCain. So these early caucuses and primaries are very, very important. The filing deadline for FL is 10/31, and for SC it’s 11/1.
I wouldn’t be quite so quick to write off Perry, either. His gratuitous remark and some of his non-conservative positions are definitely going to be difficult to overcome, no doubt about that. Campaigns have imploded for less, and survived worse. Time will tell. It’s going to be a fun ride till the eventual nominee is chosen.
I think Cain may have just filled Palin’s “spot.”
EXACTLY!!
“The IRS could wait a week or so. Not the few years Cain seems to be alluding to.”
To do away with the Federal Income Tax will require a Constitutional amendment repeal, which WILL take some time going through the usual process of Congress, then the States. He’s said that a flat tax would likely be a good bridge until we can get rid of federal income tax - THEN the fair tax, a uniform sales tax, should be the only tax charged to people. He doesn’t want the fair tax in ADDITION to income tax, otherwise it’d be a VAT like Europe has. We have to have some kind of tax to produce necessary revenues, but either a flat tax or a national sales tax seems fair, AND would get that near-50% not currently paying ANY income tax to contribute.
He also said in debate that he’d like to eliminate the EPA. The moderator only gave the candidates a choice of one to eliminate, but I’ve also heard him in the past say he’d like to eliminate the Dept. of Education as well. Both of these would be my top two choices.
Cain is a great man, an excellent team builder and a true problem solver.
We can’t know how Cain will stand up to the onslaught until he has to actually do it. It didn’t take long for Perry to crumble. I’m not rooting for Cain to falter, I’m just stating the facts. He has never won an election. That’s not a criticism. We’ll soon see. I like him and trust him, so that’s a big plus. It’s hard not to like the guy. Bob
” Cain needs to promote his resume more, because his business experience blows Romney out of the water, and Romney’s claim to fame is budgets and economics. Cain trumps him handily.”
GOOD POINT!
Rats!......I lost her cell phone number.
I just thought of something.....if Christie runs we have...thats right....The Three Stooges !
Besides Palin and Cain, are there any real Conservatives running for Republican candidate for President?
Romney will not be the GOP nominee, and if he is he will finish third.
We can do it without putting a pro-Muslim, pro-illegal autocrat who doesn’t believe in the Second Amendment, like Chris Christie, in power.
Using your logic that is the only criterion, you could just as well go out and vote in Michael Bloomberg, so what you are saying is nonsense.
The extent of Chris Christie fiscal accomplishments are limited to reining in the Civil Service Unions. A significant accomplishment for Jersey, but HARDLY a recommendation for the White House.
The high cost of government on the state and federal levels is directly connected to the government’s imposition of un-Constitutional and/ or extravagant mandates on government agencies, which generate the need for more employees and revenue and results in less freedom for people.
So far, Christie has done nothing about this in New Jersey - not even a speech.
I live in New Jersey and my taxes went UP this year, FAR beyond the so-called 2% cap. FURTHER, I have seen NO evidence the governor has been successful in reducing the dreadful unemployment rate here. As a matter of fact, a recent article by the Star Ledger indicates most Counties in Jersey LOST more jobs AGAIN this year.
So much for Chris Christie.
Good idea on the donation. We have bills and a baby on the way so money is tight. But I will be trying to send in $25 per month.
“Besides Palin and Cain, are there any real Conservatives running for Republican candidate for President?”
When did Sarah announce?
“he will absolutely destroy 0Bama in presidential debates.”
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So would Gingrich, so would Cain, and so would nearly all of the other contenders.
Chris Christie is a LOSER. He will lose the SAME voters Perry apparently lost over the illegal immigration issue, MORE voters over his Pro-Muslim philosophies, MORE voters over his dismal Second Amendment stand and still MORE voters by his INSUFFERABLE arrogance, rudeness and temper. He is more of a Brooklyn guy than a Jersey guy, as anyone from this state KNOWS. And his attitude will NOT gain him vote in more polite conservative areas of the country.
See my OTHER comments about this guy to Cherry.
“Another benefit if he
joins the race is he splits RINO votes from Mitt.”
PERHAPS. But Christie has money oozing from every orifice in his body, which helped him win the GOP nomination in Jersey. He ALSO has a LOT of big rollers from the pestilential New York area behind him. People who want a fiscal conservative in office, but not one who will address OTHER issues so near and dear to the hearts of REAL conservatives as they are RINOs.
I don't know, I'm for Palin but would gladly vote for Cain. Not all Palin supporters are as you suggest.
Honestly, the best ticket for me would be Palin/Cain. I feel that both of them will stick to their beliefs and their strong conservative values against the attacks they will surely face if elected.
either one or both of them will represent us well.
bfl
““Besides Palin and Cain, are there any real Conservatives running for Republican candidate for President?”
When did Sarah announce?”
She hasn’t. I didn’t word my post correctly.
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