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World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
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New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword realtime Or view
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2 posted on
09/07/2011 5:36:46 AM PDT by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
September 7, 1941"British Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden notes that 'if we must have preferences, let me murmur in your ear that I prefer Arabs to Jews.' "
7 posted on
09/07/2011 6:09:08 AM PDT by
BroJoeK
(a little historical perspective....)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
2 new cruisers and we’re testing a new bomber too??
We are just war mongering!
/s/
8 posted on
09/07/2011 6:51:30 AM PDT by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
NYC gets a police vehicle with a two way radio... is this the first one? Controlled from the air?? Is that why they had the big car numbers on the police cars?
9 posted on
09/07/2011 6:55:44 AM PDT by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
- "The mere mention of the urgent need to abandon Kiev threw Stalin into a rage and he momentary lost his self-control. We evidently did not have sufficient will-power to withstand these outbursts of uncontrollable rage or a proper appreciation of our responsibility for the impending catastrophe on the Southwestern direction." - Alexander Vasilevsky
- Guderian's forces reach Konotop.
- The 20th Motorized Division supported by the 12th Panzer Division capture Siniavino and take Shlissel'burg on the south shore of Lake Ladoga.
To: Homer_J_Simpson
Thank you for taking the time to do the work and post this. Absolutely fascinating.
16 posted on
09/07/2011 3:51:43 PM PDT by
engrpat
(A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
To: Homer_J_Simpson
USS ATLANTA CL 51 - Battle Damage

The USS Atlanta received 49 major calibre hits, and one torpedo, during the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal disabling all but the aftmost 5"mount. The midship magazine was set afire and the bridge was riddled, killing most personnel in those spaces including Admiral Scott.
The Japanese were using shore bombardment shells that night which had a devastating effect on an unprotected ship. A single torpedo struck her on the port side in way of the forward engine room flooding both it and the forward boiler room rapidly. The after boiler room flooded in 20 minutes through damaged bulkheads fittings, probably at ruptured piping connections. The emergency diesel generator started up but the ship was left dead in the water, slowly flooding.
I have a detailed sketch showing the position of each hit and have tried to replicate that here. In the bottom picture the white circle represents each hit in addition to the location of the torpedo hit. I might be able to scan in the actual sketch I have in the near future but I hope this helps.
I appears that all the hits to the hull forward were from 5.5 inch shells mostly from the Japanese cruiser Nagara. The 5" mount in position A was hit in the front. Turret B, where my father was stationed was hit in the ammo room beneath the mount. Everyone in the room was killed except my father, who was wounded in the back. His shirt buttons and shoes were blown off as well!! Turret C had its barrels blown clean off by a shell from the USS San Francisco.
The superstructure, both fore and aft, was hit mostly by 8" shells from the San Francisco.
17 posted on
09/07/2011 4:49:50 PM PDT by
DeaconBenjamin
(A trillion here, a trillion there, soon you're NOT talking real money)
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