[Swordmaker]

Very interesting. How effective is the anti-bacterial mouthwash Cepacol?

Not very. . . Kill time is about 10-15 seconds. spirochetes will form a protective invulnerable ball in five to seven seconds. The kill time of diluted Clorox is two seconds, too fast for the spirochetes to close up.

[nutmeg]

Kill time is about 10-15 seconds. spirochetes will form a protective invulnerable ball in five to seven seconds. The kill time of diluted Clorox is two seconds, too fast for the spirochetes to close up.

Wow... scary. Not the answer I hoped for, but thank you just the same. Sorry it took me so long to reply to your post. We were away for a week's vacation, with very spotty internet coverage.

[grey_whiskers]

Hi Swordmaker,

I ran across this, long forgotten by me, after a reference to it on another thread.

Do you have any updates on Clorox and/or Damon’s solution?
Is it still the Germicidal, is the solution still 24:1 water to Clorox?

Also is %3 hydrogen peroxide effective for killing spirochetes?

Seriously considering a water pik now.
Must learn to prevent the mess all over the bathroom when I use it.

Thanks!

[AdmSmith]

Not only to get rid of spirochetes:

Baking soda dentifrice and periodontal health. A review of the literature: Amarpreet Sabharwal, BDS, MS; Frank A. Scannapieco, DMD, PhD

Biofilm associated with healthy gingiva is composed of a limited number of commensal microflora dominated by streptococci and actinomyces. In the absence of oral hygiene, the biofilm becomes more diverse in composition, including an increase in the proportion of gram-negative species and spirochetes, which release various biologically active products, including lipopolysaccharide (endotoxin), chemotactic peptides, protein toxins, and organic acids. These molecules diffuse into the gingival epithelium to initiate the host response that eventually results in gingivitis and in some circumstances, inflammatory periodontal diseases.

There are multiple clinical studies that have measured the effect of baking soda dentifrices in the control of plaque and gingival inflammation. Some studies have not shown baking soda to be comparatively more efficacious in reduction of plaque and gingival inflammation when compared with dentifrices that contain triclosan or herbal ingredients. Conversely, several studies have demonstrated that baking soda dentifrices are superior to control dentifrices in the control of plaque and gingivitis. Overall, there is moderate evidence in favor of clinical efficacy of baking soda dentifrices in controlling plaque and gingivitis.

In a meta-analysis, it was reported that baking soda dentifrices were superior in plaque control of less accessible areas of the dentition.

https://jada.ada.org/article/S0002-8177(17)30823-1/pdf