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Smart Money: Forget the Market. Buy a House
Smart Money ^ | 08/19/2011 | Jilian Mincer

Posted on 08/19/2011 8:01:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

With the Dow Jones Industrial Average down more than 400 points today, and many market experts predicting more volatility ahead, some advisers are recommending their clients put some of their cash to another use: To buy that house or summer home at the shore.

Getty ImagesPotential homebuyers certainly have plenty of incentives: Home prices are still way down in many parts of the country, and mortgage rates are nearing their all-time lows. Consider: The benchmark 30-year fixed-rate mortgage fell 1 basis point this week, to 4.45 percent — just a few basis points above the record low hit in October 2010, according to the Bankrate.com national survey of large lenders. Freddie Mac, meanwhile, reported today that the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage averaged 4.15% for the week ended Aug. 18, its lowest reported rate in 50 years.

Another reason to act now, say experts: While the recent passage of the debt deal is likely to keep mortgage rates low for now, homebuyers could soon find themselves with fewer incentives once the details of the debt deal are ironed out. Lawmakers have been debating a simpler tax system with lower tax rates and fewer tax breaks that could include reducing the generous mortgage tax deduction as part of the long-term spending cuts that must be agreed on this fall.

Of course, buyers still need significant down payments, stellar credit and job security, but if “you’re financially prepared to do so, it’s a great time to buy a house,” says Greg McBride, senior financial analyst at Bankrate.com. “Affordability is tremendous, and if you’re in a position where you have the financial security that others are lacking, you’re in a great position to grab a good deal.” Rebecca Hall, a financial planner in Reston, Va., said several of her clients have decided to buy second homes instead of putting more money in the market. “People don’t view real estate as volatile as the market,” says Hall. “Housing prices go down, but people aren’t on-line looking at it every day,” she says. “You view housing as a much longer term investment so it’s a little easier to handle [the volatility].”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: homepurchase; house; porkulus; section8; slums; stockmarket; toobigtofail

1 posted on 08/19/2011 8:01:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

oil at 80 has got be close to being a steal.


2 posted on 08/19/2011 8:03:43 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand

Forget the house! Buy farm land like Soros is doing.


3 posted on 08/19/2011 8:06:52 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Of course, buyers still need significant down payments, stellar credit and job security

Ridiculous. Might add "all you need to sell your house is a bank appraisal and certification that it's in superb condition in every way."

In fact, all you need to sell is a buyer and a meeting of minds with him.

Suggestion: pay off the mortgage, do a fsbo. Keep banks, appraisers, realtors out of your hair. Then think about moving to someplace where taxes are low.

4 posted on 08/19/2011 8:12:14 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: SeekAndFind
...or summer home at the shore.

Betcha dis guyz from Noo Joizey.

5 posted on 08/19/2011 8:14:52 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am holding out for the passage of the ‘Sub-prime mortgage act of 2012’ before I pull the trigger, this way, I can load up on about 4 or 5 houses...


6 posted on 08/19/2011 8:18:28 AM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'....Obamaism)
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To: SeekAndFind

Housing is affordable but prices could continue to drop. Buying a house anyplace but Texas or a few other places could be risky. Housing prices are still 14 percent above the historical trend with a lot of excess inventory.


7 posted on 08/19/2011 8:31:43 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: SeekAndFind

A) Add up all the cash out-of-pocket over the whole time you own the house (real estate taxes, repairs and maintenance, mortgage payments, downpayment, transaction costs, etc.) (If you had a 30-year mortgage with an interest rate of more than about 5.3%, you paid double the amount you borrowed back to the bank).

B) Add up all the cash in-pocket when you sell and the amount, if any, your income taxes (Federal and State) that were reduced over those 40 years because you had tax deductions based on the house. Not the amount of the deduction - the amount your Income Tax was lower than if you redid your Tax return without the deduction.

C) Subtract A) from B).

Depending on the individual house, if you look at the what kind of percentage annual return this represents, this may look great or terrible or anything in between.

Basically, Real Estate taxes typically represent something between 1% to 2% of the value of the house every year. That gives me a gut feel that I need the market price of the house to increase by that much every year just to break even. House taxes, for example, in NJ are in the $6,000 to $15,000 per year range for the typical range of house sizes. Is the market price of those houses going up that much every year ? Only during the boom. For a NJ house purchased 40 years ago for perhaps $30,000, the Real Estate taxes paid on that house would be well over $200,000, quite possibly over $300,000. Those taxes were paid, cash out of pocket. Subtract that from the gain on the sale of the house and then take the remaining gain and see what it annualizes at.

The NJEA (New Jersey Extortion Association) has made sure that municipal taxes ratchet up to relieve the rube, I mean, taxpayer of all their “extra” money. For the kids, you know.


8 posted on 08/19/2011 8:40:50 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: SeekAndFind

Buy at a low rate even if you had the cash?


9 posted on 08/19/2011 9:33:20 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hoo-hah.

If I want to sell a stock or an ounce of gold or a mutual fund I can do it within minutes of making the decision. And I know exactly what the market price is. And I don't have to pay 5-6% of its sale price to some numbnutz to "show it" for me.

And a stock or a fund or an ounce of gold doesn't cost me thousands every year in property taxes, fees, utilities, maintenance and insurance.

Houses are never a long term money making investment unless (1) you can rent them out with reliable, positive cash flow, or (2) a bubble comes along after you've already bought.

10 posted on 08/19/2011 10:00:52 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Is the market price of those houses going up that much every year ? Only during the boom.

Exactly, Pieter. The boom, she be gone and she ain't coming back.

It's time to explain to house sellers and buyers that we are turning into Japan, and that Japan’s housing prices are still in the basement two decades after their real estate and stock market bubbles popped.

11 posted on 08/19/2011 10:19:20 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Nothing will cure the economy but debt deleveraging, deregulation, and time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Buy farmland. People gotta eat!


12 posted on 08/19/2011 10:37:14 AM PDT by semaj (Anybody who claims that violence never solved anything is a liar..., just ask the government.)
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To: semaj
“Buy farmland. People gotta eat!”

Yes buy farmland in 5 years after the price declines by 70%. It's a bubble now and will decline.

Everyone has forgotten the 80’s. They say “it's different now”.
That was said loudly in the late 70’s also.

13 posted on 08/19/2011 10:41:03 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: semaj

RE: Buy farmland. People gotta eat!

Don’t you need to learn how to farm first?


14 posted on 08/19/2011 10:42:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: All

just stay away from home owner associations like the plague.


15 posted on 08/22/2011 7:10:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
just stay away from home owner associations like the plague.

HOAs are the only things that will keep Section 8 tenants out.

16 posted on 08/22/2011 7:13:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind
Freddie Mac, meanwhile, reported today that the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage averaged 4.15% for the week ended Aug. 18, its lowest reported rate in 50 years.

Strange, I got one that week for 4.125%. Of course, you have to be prepared to put 20% down and prove you don't need to borrow the money. ;o)

17 posted on 08/22/2011 7:21:09 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: dfwgator

not any more.

a swipe of the pen and the taxpayers pay the association fees or worse the section 8’s are expempted in the “spirit of fairness” forcing the other home owners to cover the costs.

HOAs are toxic.


18 posted on 08/22/2011 9:07:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

My understanding is that it is up to the HOA to set standards in such a way that they would not allow Section 8 people to rent. I don’t know of HOAs being forced to accept Section 8 tenants.


19 posted on 08/22/2011 9:12:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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