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Linux creator calls for GNOME fork
Eweek Linux Devices ^ | August 4th | Eric Brown

Posted on 08/09/2011 6:31:33 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

Long before the leading Linux desktop environment GNOME arrived in a 3.0 version in April, long-time GNOME users have been grumbling about the radical changes. The dissatisfaction only increased since GNOME 3.0's debut in the beta of Fedora 15 and continued with the Fedora 15 final.

We mention Fedora because no other major Linux distro has yet to make the switch. To avoid it, Canonical gambled on its own controversial Unity UI layer in Ubuntu 11.04, and the Ubuntu-flavored Linux Mint 11 opted for the earlier GNOME 2.32.1.

Now Linux creator and kernel overseer Linus Torvalds (pictured), has stepped in to call the "crazy" GNOME 3.0 an "unholy mess," and has recommended a fork of the GNOME Foundation project.


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KEYWORDS: gnome; linus; linux; torvalds
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At least he's an equal opportunity offender.

I myself didn't like the initial KDE4 implementation, but at this point most things have been ironed out.(all software is imperfect in some ways)

1 posted on 08/09/2011 6:31:39 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

GNOME is so-so. Once I went over to KDE, I was a happy camper. GNOME 3 is a smoldering pile of rubber dog shyt. I’ve had nothing but problems with it on my Mint machine.


2 posted on 08/09/2011 6:34:51 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Is a gnome fork anything like a spork weasel?


3 posted on 08/09/2011 6:35:26 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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fork - spork ??

I need a knife to cut thru the alphabet of acronyms and get to the meat of the matter ;)


4 posted on 08/09/2011 6:47:15 AM PDT by Wills_Dad
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
In other news: #%}^~>€£}+£€{^|>%{>.>>{*{+£]€\€|

People are taking a wait and see attitude.

5 posted on 08/09/2011 7:05:01 AM PDT by mindburglar (I'm not "The Man" anymore. Stick it to someone else.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Yep - KDE4.0 was a mess. Unity isn’t stable on a lot of hardware (read Sandybridge fer instance). So what’s new. I didn’t like KDE4.0, and still don’t really care for it’s new organization. They are trying to “innovate” to the point of making things harder to use instead of easier. They require more horse-power from the GPUs (let alone the CPUs), and don’t get any more work done in the process.

Maybe XFCE is a better idea.


6 posted on 08/09/2011 7:22:57 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
At least he's an equal opportunity offender. I myself didn't like the initial KDE4 implementation, but at this point most things have been ironed out.(all software is imperfect in some ways)

Torvalds had harsh words for KDE4 when it came out. He was correct. I've used KDE 4.4.4 "release 3" for at least 4 months now. It has run very smooth. No complaints at all!

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

7 posted on 08/09/2011 7:37:04 AM PDT by CharlyFord (t)
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Maybe XFCE is a better idea.

I am running Xubuntu 11.04 with XFCE and love it. I started using XFCE when Redhat 8.0 came out and it has been my preference ever since then. Gnome is bloated but the standard. I don't need all the bells, buzzers, whistles and lights. (have used linux since ~1997)

8 posted on 08/09/2011 7:40:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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9 posted on 08/09/2011 7:42:19 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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10 posted on 08/09/2011 7:43:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: fremont_steve

For me finding the app I was needing was time consuming

in kde...xfce4 is what I find myself useing mostly

There sure are a lot of people who don`t care for gnome3,

it works pretty good my new dell inspiron,older pc`s not

The one that really disapoints is lxde...lame


11 posted on 08/09/2011 7:46:03 AM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Texas Fossil; fremont_steve
I agree with Texas--I use XFCE exclusively now on a SandyBridge i7 laptop.

While I could run any desktop I want (except for Gnome 3.0 it seems :) ), I prefer the look, layout, and functionality of XFCE.

12 posted on 08/09/2011 7:47:04 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Texas Fossil

FVWM for me. XFCE on kids and better half’s dual boot machines, but they prefer Windows.


13 posted on 08/09/2011 8:00:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Can i get on the tech ping list?


14 posted on 08/09/2011 8:24:54 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Global Warming, undeniable truth; Obama, infallible genius; Apple perfect, invented everything)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Call me a moron, but I like Gnome. Haven’t gone to 3.0 though. For me, it does what I want it to do, but not too much, and is pleasing to the eye.


15 posted on 08/09/2011 8:28:06 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

You’re a moron. ;)


16 posted on 08/09/2011 8:28:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Thank Goodness I have been around long enough to know how to use the command line -run commands, I never use window managers oh I install them just to see the new things going on but when I am working I just use console login.


17 posted on 08/09/2011 8:29:33 AM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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Well tophat, try asking ShadowAce instead. He is even a Linux guy. Allegedly cool as well.


18 posted on 08/09/2011 8:29:51 AM PDT by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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To: tophat9000

You’ve been added. Welcome Aboard!!


19 posted on 08/09/2011 8:34:00 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

That will make more people want to use linux another version of GNOME /sarcasm.


20 posted on 08/09/2011 9:14:18 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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