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The no-kids-allowed movement is spreading
Shine via Yahoo! ^ | Wednesday, July 27, 2011 | Piper Weiss

Posted on 07/27/2011 12:00:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows

What's the matter with kids today and why doesn't anyone want them around? In June, Malaysia Airlines banned babies from many of their first class cabins, prompting other major airlines to consider similar policies.

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Earlier this month, McDain's, a Pittsburgh area restaurant that banned kids under 6 became a mascot for the no-kids-zone movement.

According to a Pittsburgh local news poll, more than half of area residents were in favor of the ban. And now big business is paying attention.

"Brat bans could well be the next frontier in destination and leisure-product marketing," writes Robert Klara in an article on the child-free trend in AdWeek.

Klara points to Leavethembehind.com, a travel website for kid-free vacations, with a massive list of yoga retreats, luxury resorts and bargain hotels around the world that ban children.

(Excerpt) Read more at shine.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: childrearing; children; kids; napl; parenting
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1 posted on 07/27/2011 12:00:47 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
Personally, if I want to hear little voices whining at me I'll feed my cats late.


2 posted on 07/27/2011 12:01:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Well behaved children are almost never a problem.

That being said, I understand completely the growing trend towards keeping out children.


3 posted on 07/27/2011 12:02:57 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Can we have a no-thugs-allowed movement?


4 posted on 07/27/2011 12:03:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Slings and Arrows

Children need to be socialized in order to learn to be social. That said, considering parents are too lazy to discipline their children anymore I believe businesses have grounds to prohibit children. Parents do not have the right to bring anything, including unruly children, that disrupts the business.


5 posted on 07/27/2011 12:04:44 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I’m all for the no babies in First or Business Class, but the ban at restaurants in unnecessary as you can avoid kids by dining at restaurants that would not attract people who drag their kids along.

Or at least the type of folks that cannot control their kids.


6 posted on 07/27/2011 12:05:00 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Slings and Arrows

I have a much bigger problem with adults who blather loudly into their cell phones or drop f-bombs every other word than with toddler meltdowns.


7 posted on 07/27/2011 12:06:55 PM PDT by lazypadawan
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To: CodeToad

My grandson is a classic example of an over-nurtured child. His mother PLEADS with him to mind her and makes all sorts of threats that she never follows up on. And when I was watching him alone he needed to “go number 2” and wanted me to “wipe” him!? He’s frickin 6 and a half!!!

I told him that I wasn’t going to and I learned to wipe myself before I was five. He somehow managed. ;-)

The kid is so unruly that he drives the family crazy. But he’s learned to mind me. I follow through with my threats and, other than bruises and one broken bone, he’s doing fine. ;-)


8 posted on 07/27/2011 12:08:11 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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you can avoid kids by dining at restaurants that would not attract people who drag their kids along.

With respect, that is not the case. I've seen people bring babies and small children to the best restaurant in town. Some people can only take a hint if it's tied to a brick and thrown forcefully at them.

9 posted on 07/27/2011 12:08:50 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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When did kids become the equivalent of second-hand smoke? Blame a wave of childless adults with money to spare. "Empty nesters continue to wield a huge swath of discretionary spending dollars, and population dips in first-world countries mean more childless couples than ever," writes AdWeek's Klara.

That's where the article places the blame. I put the blame on incompetent parents who 1) Treat their child like a buddy, 2) Never, ever, discipline a child, 3) Pay no attention to their child in a public place, 4) Become irate when confronted with their child's rude behavior.

10 posted on 07/27/2011 12:09:06 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: Slings and Arrows
Earlier this month, McDain's, a Pittsburgh area restaurant that banned kids under 6 became a mascot for the no-kids-zone movement.

Mike McDain has been a friend of mine since the 60s but I hadn't been to his place for 4 or 5 years.

When I heard about this kid banning program, I got two other couples and we went to McDains and made it a point to tell him why.

We've been back since then and his business has really picked up.

He also has a driving range and I now go there instead of my club to hit balls.

11 posted on 07/27/2011 12:09:19 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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I honestly believe that this AS WELL AS SMOKING!! should be up to the wishes of the proprietor.

If there is a demand for places to go where you can bring the rug rats, by all means, open a place up and make a fortune.

Similarly, if there are folks out there who enjoy a cigarette or cigar with a glass of wine after their meal, go for it.

I know, I know, it’s an outdated concept.

It’s called “the free market”.


12 posted on 07/27/2011 12:09:26 PM PDT by djf ("Life is never fair...And perhaps it is a good thing for most of us that it is not." Oscar Wilde)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Good. So long as I get audibly assaulted by little junior son-of-a-*itch in every restaurant, store and church I step into, smokers are owed an apology.


13 posted on 07/27/2011 12:10:34 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

About the Author:
Piper Weiss is a liberal uber-mommy who defiantly breast feeds in public and believes the whole world revolves around her sweet little Mystic and her precious adorable Brie.

(OK, I made this up, but seriesly....)


14 posted on 07/27/2011 12:10:41 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it)
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To: trumandogz
but the ban at restaurants in unnecessary as you can avoid kids by dining at restaurants that would not attract people who drag their kids along.

Why should I have to change my habits because of some self-centered, incompetent adult who refuses to control their brat?

15 posted on 07/27/2011 12:10:42 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: CodeToad

No...socialization has nothing to do with it. Parenting has everything to do w/ it tho. It never takes a village just 2 adults (male & female) who take their roles seriously. If kids are well behaved at home they’ll be that way in public. That said they’re kids and will act that way until mature.


16 posted on 07/27/2011 12:10:48 PM PDT by 556x45
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Of interest, ping.


17 posted on 07/27/2011 12:10:58 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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Have you ever been in a public place where the kids are going crazy and screaming and mom and dad are just sitting there?....No thanks!


18 posted on 07/27/2011 12:11:02 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Slings and Arrows

This is a logical conclusion for an increasingly hyperindivualistic culture devoted exclusively to pleasure and petty power.


19 posted on 07/27/2011 12:11:21 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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In far too many households, the children are the decision-makers and are running the show!

Adults have abdicated because they don't want the children "mad."

20 posted on 07/27/2011 12:11:21 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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