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Dog Owner Reacts To Finding That Police Officer Was Justified In Deadly Shooting
CBS Denver ^ | May 26, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 07/25/2011 5:09:10 PM PDT by Immerito

Brittany Moore and Ava (credit: CBS) Filed under Local, News Related tags Brittany Moore, Erie, Jamie Chester

ERIE, Colo. (CBS4)- The district attorney has cleared an Erie police officer who shot and killed a family’s pet earlier this month.

District Attorney Stan Garnett said the dog lunged at the officer.

Its owner, Brittany Moore, says the German shepherd named Ava didn’t do anything that warranted being shot.

(Excerpt) Read more at denver.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; doginator; donutwatch; germanshepherd
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To: OldPossum
"...Sorry for the double post. I’m going to put the blame on the computer for this one..."

Got any more excuses, O P?

I've never done that ....................................... FRegards

41 posted on 07/25/2011 6:57:39 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: OldPossum
"...Sorry for the double post. I’m going to put the blame on the computer for this one..."

Got any more excuses, O P?

I've never done that ....................................... FRegards

42 posted on 07/25/2011 6:58:14 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: OldPossum
"...Sorry for the double post. I’m going to put the blame on the computer for this one..."

Got any more excuses, O P?

I've never done that ....................................... FRegards

43 posted on 07/25/2011 6:58:38 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: OldPossum
"...Sorry for the double post. I’m going to put the blame on the computer for this one..."

Got any more excuses, O P?

I've never done that ....................................... FRegards
That should do it ...

44 posted on 07/25/2011 6:59:25 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms .................. FRegards)
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To: OldPossum

Enroll in cop school at your local community college just fer $hits-n-giggles. You won’t sleep well ever again.


45 posted on 07/25/2011 7:01:56 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Immerito

Cop shots the dog. shoot the cop. That’ll stop it.


46 posted on 07/25/2011 7:10:23 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: blackdog
If every time they walk near your house you instantly appear with a baseball bat and a bulge in your belt, they tend to move along elsewhere.

Where can I find quality neighbors like you?

47 posted on 07/25/2011 7:10:53 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: brent13a
Let's not discuss how when we are called we are supposed to instantly have a solution when we arrive, any other time we're dicks and assholes but if that person who called us was wronged....."I want you to go violate their civil rights right NOW!!"

You have chosen a weird profession. As would someone who works for the IRS, everyone hates you because of guilt by association whether you have earned the scorn or not, yet when that terrible time comes to have to deal with you or the IRS agent, we expect you to be a saint of God.

There is no winning.

48 posted on 07/25/2011 7:21:14 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: Immerito
Officer Was Justified In Deadly Shooting

Oh, so in other words, he may or may not have had a warrant, the warrant may or may not have been issued for the correct person at the correct address. There may or may not have been a crime of the most minor infraction to no actual infraction at all.

49 posted on 07/25/2011 7:44:54 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: freedumb2003

agreed.


50 posted on 07/25/2011 8:07:30 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: brent13a
At the same time, the government needs to stop micro managing Americans and their lives, i.e. can't use firecrackers that have a “bang,” or Americans cannot use “Ohio blue tip matches,” dig a hole in your back yard without a permit (permission) form the government.

In case you missed it, there are so many laws on the books now that Americans are unable to do anything without breaking the damn law that requires a cop to come to your private home and stick his or her nose in Americans personnel business.

Law enforcement Unions are the main driving force behind the “911” service and anti-gun legislation, etc.

Law enforcement lie to the American people with statements like “You can't take the law into your own hands.”

In my rural community we take care of our own problems, the only time you see a cop car is if there has been an accident.

Good ridden to bad rubbish. If a cop shot a person's dog in my community, the cop would never survive getting out of the area. In one(1) incident several years ago, two (2) deputy Sheriff's (k-9) patrol thought it would be funny to harass a young 17 year old who suffers from a nerve disease and shakes when he stands still. they pulled this young man over, and demanded that he take a sobriety test on the side of the road. When the young man refused they sicked the dog on him and was bitten severely. Two (2) weeks later, they found those two (2) officers laying in a ditch with both their legs broke with a not that reminded them to leave our community!

Old fashion justice!

51 posted on 07/25/2011 8:44:20 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: The Theophilus

Are you just stupid or did you fall down? We are not waiting for anyone to do anything if our home is attacked. Thats why we have weapons and are proficient with firearms. We are probably better than the cops.

Do you know what we call people breaking down our front door? Target practice.


52 posted on 07/25/2011 9:51:36 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Immerito

I’m curious, do police departments offer any training on how to recognize when dogs are aggressive or when the are friendly? It seems that I keep seeing these stories and am curious if there has been any attempt to change the trend...


53 posted on 07/26/2011 6:35:38 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: brent13a

“MOST ANIMALS DETEST AND ARE SCARED OF SOLID UNIFORMS. I don’t know why,...”

That is somewhat surprising to me. It is completely logical that dogs get aggressive with anyone in uniform. For the most part, they are rewarded every day by being aggressive torwards uniforms. Think about it, every day they aggressively drive away a potential invader, the mail man, with their aggressive behaviour. Even tho’ the mail man doesn’t realize it, their regular attempt to invade the home is thwarted in the dog’s brain every day.

As a result, the dog is only doing what they are able to achieve daily with any other uniform.


54 posted on 07/26/2011 7:15:47 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: CSM

I recall reading that a police department was giving its officers training on understanding the common behaviors of animals that its officers were most likely to face, but I am not certain if officers receive any such training at the academy or elsewhere under normal circumstances.

That said, understanding dog behavior isn’t rocket science. One would hope that the average officer has enough common sense to know when an animal is being friendly or aggressive.

I don’t think the problem is, by and large, ignorance of behavior on the part of the officers.

This problem is so widespread that it appears to be prompted by a directive-—if you see a dog, you may shoot it and claim later that it was aggressive, whether it was or not.

No, the problem does not appear to be ignorance, but malevolence on the part of some officers who enjoy intimidating (or attempting to intimidate) citizens who have committed no crime.

Sooner or later, they will point their weapon at the wrong citizen’s dog. Then it likely won’t go well for the officer(s) involved.


55 posted on 07/26/2011 7:20:07 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

I pray that you are wrong but fear you are right....


56 posted on 07/26/2011 7:24:43 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: brent13a

Thank you for your service.


57 posted on 07/26/2011 8:07:01 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: brent13a

I am probably going to get example after example of why I am wrong, but my opinion differs with some here.

I have the most respect and admiration for police officers, and in my 68 years of life on this earth, have never had an unpleasant experience with them. Granted, I have never lived in a high crime area, where the officers might have reason to be defensive and guarded in their dealings with the general public.

And, on the subject of dogs. too many people today have dogs, but do not have their dogs trained and under control at all times. And by that I mean a dog who will instantly come to the owner’s side and assume a sit or better yet, a down, upon command.

If the owner of this dog has issued such a command, and the dog promptly responded, I am positive the outcome would have been completely different.

So, please people, get off this nonsense about police shooting people’s pets. Having a pet is a responsibility, and proper training, control, and leadership come along with that.

There are too many out-of-control dogs out there, and our police can’t tell by anything other than how a dog responds to his owner’s commands.


58 posted on 07/26/2011 8:56:25 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej

There is no evidence in this story that the dog in question posed a threat to the officer.

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Moore believes Chester panicked, giving no warning before he fired, killing Ava.

“He saw the dogs and turned around, put his hand on his gun and started backing up and that’s when I said, ‘Ava nein,’ and she turned and he got down and shot her.” Moore said.

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This isn’t a case of a bad dog; it’s a case of a bad cop. The dog *was* responding to the owner; it had turned around to face the owner to discern further direction; it responded to the command “Nien” (No.)


59 posted on 07/26/2011 9:37:47 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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60 posted on 07/26/2011 8:31:02 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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