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Dog Owner Reacts To Finding That Police Officer Was Justified In Deadly Shooting
CBS Denver ^ | May 26, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 07/25/2011 5:09:10 PM PDT by Immerito

Brittany Moore and Ava (credit: CBS) Filed under Local, News Related tags Brittany Moore, Erie, Jamie Chester

ERIE, Colo. (CBS4)- The district attorney has cleared an Erie police officer who shot and killed a family’s pet earlier this month.

District Attorney Stan Garnett said the dog lunged at the officer.

Its owner, Brittany Moore, says the German shepherd named Ava didn’t do anything that warranted being shot.

(Excerpt) Read more at denver.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; doginator; donutwatch; germanshepherd
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To: blackdog

“Why do people call the police, to only then be unhappy with the outcome?
Never, ever, ever call the police for anything whatsoever. Be as amorphous, shapeless, undefined, and vague on their radar as possible.

The police are not your friend, marriage counselor, argument referee, arbitrator, or source of safety in our society. They are dangerous by nature and as a designed result of their cop-school training. I won’t even get into the psychological aspects of their disfunction.

A good cop is a rare thing, as is a local magistrate. They do exist, but not in numbers. “

BEARS REPEATING, REPEATEDLY!


21 posted on 07/25/2011 6:06:12 PM PDT by airplaneguy
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To: Immerito
If that ass-hole shot my dog, he had better start shooting the rest of the family, because there would be no place on earth where that piece of shit could hide!

I don't care why he shot this person's dog, these same law enforcement officers have charged American citizens with murder for shooting and killing a police dog!

It is high time Americans take a zero tolerance against being shit on by law enforcement whenever they think it is convenient for them to do so!

Stand up to this nonsense!

22 posted on 07/25/2011 6:06:51 PM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: airplaneguy

seriously, if you’re too stupid to do anything else you can always become a cop or a TSA agent


23 posted on 07/25/2011 6:08:35 PM PDT by rjsclassics (bringing people together)
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To: Immerito
The blame does not lie at the feet of the owner, but it stops with the officer, who could have easily said. “Ma’am, I am afraid of dogs; please secure your animals in another room.”

Being a police officer I've had to make that request before. 'Either you put up your dog or if it charges me I'm defending myself.' I've also deserted calls before where there was a dog I didn't trust and no owner around. Effit, if the call isn't life threatening then I'm not getting out of my car and dealing with a situation that can be avoided.

I almost pulled my gun ONCE on a dog, years ago. But as I stated above, I simply turned around and left instead.

MOST ANIMALS DETEST AND ARE SCARED OF SOLID UNIFORMS. I don't know why, but on average a solid uniform of a cop can turn even a nice dog into a defensive hound. WHen I see the hair on their backs raise the hair on the back of my neck also raises and it's hands-off time. I will do my best to avoid a confrontation with anyone's pet but if I have no other choice I'll shoot it. SO far that hasn't happened in my town in probably 10+ years.
24 posted on 07/25/2011 6:13:11 PM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: brent13a

“MOST ANIMALS DETEST AND ARE SCARED OF SOLID UNIFORMS.”

Possibly because their ancestors have an instinctive fear of potential predators—who often have solid color coats.

Being an animal, it operates on instinct, not logic.

Being an animal, it is also incredibly bribe-able and will be eternally devoted to anyone carrying a few Milk-Bones around (or at least, eternally devoted so long as no one else has something better. :-) )


25 posted on 07/25/2011 6:18:07 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: blackdog

2nd all of that.

There are very few situations that can’t be made worse by the addition of a cop.


26 posted on 07/25/2011 6:22:22 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: blackdog
I won't even get into the psychological aspects of their disfunction.

I wish someone could find some studies on the psychological make-up of the average cop. I think it would make for very interesting reading.

I don't like them as a group nor do I have any faith in their integrity. It would take a very unusual situation for me to ever call them to my house.

27 posted on 07/25/2011 6:23:45 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: blackdog
I won't even get into the psychological aspects of their disfunction.

I wish someone could find some studies on the psychological make-up of the average cop. I think it would make for very interesting reading.

I don't like them as a group nor do I have any faith in their integrity. It would take a very unusual situation for me to ever call them to my house.

28 posted on 07/25/2011 6:26:38 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"...then call the cops to bring out the body bags..."

I would think your first option would be to sit tight and see if your neighbors noticed or called 911. If that doesn't seem to be the case, if the crims parked their car nearby, have some plastic sheeting, duct tape and a couple road flares handy, put them in the trunk drive to somewhere isolated and add the lit flares to the trunk and hike through the woods home.

If you don't know them then there is no way the State can pin you on the disposal unless you are stupid enough to confess or take your cell phone with you to the dumpsite. Cops are stupid and lazy with fewer than one in seven homicides ending in a conviction.

Otherwise, calling the Law yourself will just put in you in prison for multiple homicide or empty your retirement funds to Perry Mason your way out of it. In either case you will be forced to move far away pronto because of the crim's family retaliation and the fact your co-workers will feel creeped out working with you and the neighbor kids will keep shouting "murderer" when they see you.

America doesn't have a justice system, we have a legal system and the current legal system is the patriotic American's enemy. If the perps are one skin color and you are another, the Prosecutor is eyeing your incarceration as a rung on his/her political ladder.

If all that sounds too scary and wacked out, then when the crims come through the front door, you and your family go out the back and let the crims have their way. Nothing in your house is worth the legal costs and hassle, and if you did have valuables laying around - why don't you have them in a vault?

29 posted on 07/25/2011 6:30:30 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: brent13a
People have no sense of shame anymore. The state shall not shame you, look down on you, or question your motives, especially when it grows the state and it's control over your life.

The state has become your clergy, mentor, and paid guide in the race for abandoning individual liberty in favor of free food, housing, medical care, and child rearing.

A police car in your driveway used to be an event of embarassment and shame to your family and neighbors. Now it's just a welfare check on grandpa who you're too busy to deal with, or some school trouble your kids cultivated, or because your rent is three months late.

30 posted on 07/25/2011 6:33:41 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: OldPossum

Sorry about the double post. I’m having occasional problems with this so-called high-speed internet connection.


31 posted on 07/25/2011 6:33:41 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: paratrooper82
It is high time Americans take a zero tolerance against being shit on by law enforcement whenever they think it is convenient for them to do so!

It's high time Americans start growing up and dealing with their own problems then. How many people called the police in 1949 because their neighbor blew grass into their yard? How many people called the police to raise their child for them in 1958? How many people called the police because their ex-spouse wouldn't quit calling them on the phone in 1950? I'm pretty sure the difference would be staggering.

If the public could just grow up and take care of itself then the police would only exist like they used too (emergencies only and low level law enforcement) and their would be very minimal interaction with the police.

When we have an overbearing monstrosity of a nanny-state federal government how do you expect the police to not also become overbearing? We've become society's nannies and now the side effect is that even our presence is overbearing....yet we still keep getting called to deal with society's mundane, non-criminal problems.

I've been told people's most inner most private secrets before, offered up without me even asking. This info is offered up because I don't know why, half the time it has nothing to do with the call. I don't want to hear that stuff.

Whatever, just keep blaming police for all of society's problems as if the buck for the USA's problems stops at your local police chief's desk. We'll still keep responding to calls for civil property exchanges because two people aren't grown up enough to get along for 5 seconds.
32 posted on 07/25/2011 6:34:34 PM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: OldPossum

Sorry for the double post. I’m going to put the blame on the computer for this one.


33 posted on 07/25/2011 6:36:07 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: blackdog
A police car in your driveway used to be an event of embarassment and shame to your family and neighbors. Now it's just a welfare check on grandpa who you're too busy to deal with, or some school trouble your kids cultivated, or because your rent is three months late.

I usually make a statement like this once a night to the other guys on my squad. When you're dealing with 3rd and 4th generation direct lineage welfare recipients there is no such thing as shame.

Let's not discuss how when we are called we are supposed to instantly have a solution when we arrive, any other time we're dicks and assholes but if that person who called us was wronged....."I want you to go violate their civil rights right NOW!!"
34 posted on 07/25/2011 6:39:56 PM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: OldPossum
A highly intelligent police officer is one who posesses self defeating skillsets within his profession. The state likes em easy to point and swarm. I'd imagine to succeed in a municipality of any size, groupthink and unquestioning fanaticism to the cause d'jour is the norm if you want to receive praise from the system.

I really think there is little room for really smart cops. I mean who would want to be one anyhoo? Community based policing ended long ago along with the callbox and beat to walk.

35 posted on 07/25/2011 6:41:56 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: Immerito
Being an animal, it is also incredibly bribe-able and will be eternally devoted to anyone carrying a few Milk-Bones around (or at least, eternally devoted so long as no one else has something better. :-) )

A friend of mine had an Australian Shepard that would act aggressively toward most people, including me(even though it knew me)when they would first drive up. I discovered he liked cookies, of any kind, and I would take some with me when I went. Throw a cookie out of the car window and get out without an worries, give him another one when I left and he would escort me to the car wagging his tail. After a few "cookie" visits he would stop charging my car when I drove up and he would wait patiently until I gave him his cookie. Dogs are indeed bribe-able.

36 posted on 07/25/2011 6:46:39 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Immerito

Thankfully the police shooting dogs is a rare occurrence and we’ll probably never hear about it happening again.


37 posted on 07/25/2011 6:52:33 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: freedumb2003

Once again, as in TOO MANY CASES, the Blue Wall of Silence closes around the truth.

In a effort to control incidents like this we need:

1) A residency requirement. If a jurisdiction isn’t suitable for some cop to make his home, then its not suitable for him to work there either.

2) Civilian review boards. Cops who shoot should need to explain themselves, but not before a judge, as the burden of proof is too much weighted in the cops favor. After all, just like a judge or attorney, a cop is an officer of the court. They should have to explain themselves to a “jury” of their employers, i.e. citizens of the jurisdiction in which they work. And if that jury doesn’t buy their story, as it would be unlikely to do here, he or she can look for a job elsewhere.

This family will be traumatized forever by the actions of this rogue cop, his arrogant colleagues, and the complicity of the court which covered for him.


38 posted on 07/25/2011 6:55:57 PM PDT by ZULU (Crapo, Coburn and Chambliss are a herd of renegade RINOs.)
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To: freedumb2003

Once again, as in TOO MANY CASES, the Blue Wall of Silence closes around the truth.

In a effort to control incidents like this we need:

1) A residency requirement. If a jurisdiction isn’t suitable for some cop to make his home, then its not suitable for him to work there either.

2) Civilian review boards. Cops who shoot should need to explain themselves, but not before a judge, as the burden of proof is too much weighted in the cops favor. After all, just like a judge or attorney, a cop is an officer of the court. They should have to explain themselves to a “jury” of their employers, i.e. citizens of the jurisdiction in which they work. And if that jury doesn’t buy their story, as it would be unlikely to do here, he or she can look for a job elsewhere.

This family will be traumatized forever by the actions of this rogue cop, his arrogant colleagues, and the complicity of the court which covered for him.


39 posted on 07/25/2011 6:56:23 PM PDT by ZULU (Crapo, Coburn and Chambliss are a herd of renegade RINOs.)
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To: brent13a
My dad was a state prison guard. Not some state lockup for profitable trash mind you.........But real nasty murderers, rapists, arsonists, and the like.

I learned an awful lot from the experiences of him, the inmates I got to know and know of(we lived on a farm next to the prison), the powers of the state, the stupidity of the state, and the skewed sense of right and wrong which can easily and rapidly take over any group of people under certain conditions.

Every person should be required to do the following before they can be employed in any position of authority.

Wash Dishes in a restaraunt while in high school.

Work as a laborer for a general contractor during summers while in high school.

Tend bar or wait on tables for at least one year.

Join the military and get shot at and return fire. Do so for at least four years.

Become a volunteer fireman or EMT in your local community.

Prove you can maintain a relationship with a spouse before you can break down someone elses door because their wife is irritable and likes to use her cell phone a lot.

Raise your own damn kids to adulthood without incident.

At this stage you'll be 50 years old and will have made you wise enough to be a police officer in this country.

40 posted on 07/25/2011 6:57:09 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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