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What are you stocking up on? (Notice any changes at your grocery?)
Recent trips to WalMart, Whole Foods, Ingles, Publix, BiLo; Food Lion | Mamzelle

Posted on 07/24/2011 1:08:37 PM PDT by Mamzelle

All of my usual stores are rearranging and changing what they put on their shelves. I'm sensing that the big uptick in prices will start to arrive shortly, maybe before Christmas. I'm interested to hear what the impressions of FRugal Freepers. What are you seeing? What will you be buying in quanity before TSHTF?


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Food; Gardening
KEYWORDS: emergencyprep; foodprices; inflation; obamanomics; preparedness; survival; thecomingdarkness
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To: Outlaw Woman; bgill

My husband is a sailor and considers his boat the escape pod.

I, OTOH, am essentially paranoid and I have seen a gradual tightening of boating and waterway usage rules over the years. I found your & bgill’s observations on the water police to be what I expect to happen.

People are going to evacuate the cities and go....where? I have heard people state that they would take in a refugee baby in arms, only, and they are quite serious.


221 posted on 07/24/2011 5:20:59 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: patriot08

For the money, the store brand here “Our Family” is the best. Try a can of each and find what you like.


222 posted on 07/24/2011 5:22:41 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: kimmie7

There’s an excellent seed company that specializes in grains and helping people produce their own grains. The name is Bountiful Garden or Gardens, I’ve bought seeds from them a number of times. All non-hybridized seeds. In Willits, CA. Google and you’ll find them.


223 posted on 07/24/2011 5:23:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: yarddog

We may not have the time right now but imo we have to keep the ‘how to’ in mind. It would be terrific if your ggf’s notes/plans were around for the next generation. I think we’re going to have to stumble for a bit (well some of us) but I have no doubt that we will make it. It’s the riff raff coming out to pillage the rural area; that’s where I’m afraid things are going to get nasty.


224 posted on 07/24/2011 5:27:32 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Well Grandpa Bill as I called him was quite a man. He died when I was a kid. He owned a large sawmill which ran on a steam engine. He also had his own railroad and a single engine.

He actually invented the road grader and even had a patent on it. Unfortunately several companies were able to evade the patent rights. When my Father, (his Grandson) was only a child, Grandpa Bill took him with him on a trip to Washington D.C. to patent some invention.


225 posted on 07/24/2011 5:37:17 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: reformedliberal

The new breed of cop around here is mid 20’s and absolutely dying to be ‘militant/authoritive’. This is what is disturbing because they will turn on the American public with no hesitation. They are coming out of the academy with the philosphy that ALL people are the enemy. No longer is there any discernment between you and a terrorist; we’re looked at the same.

Paranoid? I don’t think so. Discerning is more like it. Reading the ‘tea leaves’.


226 posted on 07/24/2011 5:37:56 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: yarddog
What a great legacy he left for your family. That is really something. He indeeds sounds like he was quite a man.

I regret not knowing/asking more questions from my ‘elders’; now they are all gone and there is noone left to ask ‘how’. But we have common sense and plenty of ingenuity left. I'm hoping that threads like this are needless and that everything will work out but...it's not looking good.

227 posted on 07/24/2011 5:48:48 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: reformedliberal

That explains alot. In my area, we use no such power assists for our septic systems. We only use pumps to charge the systems, gravity and rid-ex take care of evacuating them.

I thought everyone did it that way.


228 posted on 07/24/2011 5:50:26 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Yep, I've been saving spare change for years. Lots of quarters and nickels. Always keep a little paper money here and there too.

I don't like to keep much at home, what with living on the New Madrid fault line and tornado alley to go along with any other risks, but if shtf, it won't do any good in the bank or safety deposit box either, so it is a quandry what to do with the little we have.

Silver is good too, and if there is no crash, or great inflation, it is used in so many things, it is bound to get even better anyway somewhere along the line, course I haven't had much money to invest in things like silver.

When all is said and done, I think food, medical supplies, water, etc are all the things that need to get priority, as well as a plan to pay property taxes on one’s home.

229 posted on 07/24/2011 5:54:59 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I think Egypt’s crop is out this year (not good).


230 posted on 07/24/2011 5:55:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I’m very experienced in alternative toilets. Remind me if I don’t remember to come back and describe methods.

Toilets work only if you have water. If you’re on city water and electricity goes out, no water.

If you have a well and electricity goes out, no water unless you have large holding tanks with gravity feed or a 12 v. water pump to get the water from the tanks to the house. Even still the holding tanks get used up, so how to get water out of the well.

If water is minimal or sporadic, proper hygienic methods of alternative toilets are absolutely essential.


231 posted on 07/24/2011 5:59:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Mamzelle

These things happen in a serious Inflation as merchants try to raise prices to cover increased dollar costs and at the same time apparently keep prices down so that customers don’t find substitutes on other stores’ shelves. Quality goes down. Packages get smaller. The cheap stuff gets posh names. Farmers’ markets benefit but now they are illegal. And growing food in your yard is also illegal thus reducing supply and competition and making it easier to actually raise prices.


232 posted on 07/24/2011 6:02:42 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: little jeremiah

That would be appreciated lj. Water will not be used for toilets should everything go down. Anyway, look forward to more information. Thx


233 posted on 07/24/2011 6:03:30 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: Mamzelle

Right now, tampons at costco, with the coupon, are about 9 cents each for a 108 multipack. without it, they are about 12 cents. Either way, a good deal, and not something a lot of people discuss. But in a lot of scenarios, hygiene items are vital.


234 posted on 07/24/2011 6:05:18 PM PDT by Apogee
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To: papertyger

Yep, I’ll be trying that as soon as the weather cools off.

Last fall I cooked apples down for apple butter in a cast iron dutch oven over a wood fire I built in a “state park” grill we have in our yard. They cooked down pretty fast, and man! The flavor is sooooo much better. I canned it. Next time I will core them and peel them - cook the cores and peels in with the apples (best flavor that way) because it will sure help with time and mess when final processing. I can just pluck out the non-edibles and run the apple mush through the mill easy.


235 posted on 07/24/2011 6:15:30 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest

Granny said it has to be a true dutch oven. That is, the kind that has the sunken lid to hold the coals on top.

She also said you only put the biscuts around the sides of the oven, not the bottom. She didn’t say why.


236 posted on 07/24/2011 6:21:50 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

The bottoms of the biscuits burn and the tops do not get done when the biscuits are directly on the bottom of the dutch oven.


237 posted on 07/24/2011 6:25:30 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: BikerJoe
The local low end grocery store recently started carrying coffee in 1#10oz bags for just under $4. I tried one a while ago and found it to be much better coffee than any of the major (non"gourmet") brands and a pot of coffee kept hot is still pretty good after a couple of hours. I went back and bought three bags. This week I am going after 10 more. I suspect it is a mix involving a heavy ratio of Vietnamese coffee. That is the cheap version of Ethiopian highlands coffee which is strictly "gourmet" and oh so pricey. Like the Ethiopian it has very little acid and therefore keeps hot for an extended period.

The stuff is called "Java Time" and claims to be 100% Arabica. The Vietnamese "overproduced" the supposedly lesser quality Robusta beans and crashed the price of coffee a few years ago and the world coffee cartel dumped on VN and induced them to switch to the pricier and less productive Arabica beans. Viet Nam is producing so much Arabica that the price of that is, of course, coming down. With the right soil and altitude the Robusta is every bit as good as the Arabica and cheaper to produce. But if the growing conditions are right a country can and will "overproduce" the Arabica, too.

238 posted on 07/24/2011 6:26:38 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: papertyger

Yep - I have one of those. The lid can be flipped over (has little legs) and used as a skillet over the fire.

The reason to place the dough on the sides is because you would also have the oven resting on a bed of coals - it would scorch the biscuits were they on the bottom.

I’ve cooked (scratch) beef stew in the fireplace in my DO. Cooks faster, and tastes better than cooked on a conventional stove.

Heavy to handle though. I’d love a hook in my fireplace.


239 posted on 07/24/2011 6:29:10 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: BobL

I save old phone books and catalogs for emergency TP since we’ll be composting humanure out back (don’t need to worry about flushing it).

BTW, my plan is to buy a few tons of beans and rice. I will have my employees vacuum bag them in 4 oz., 8 oz., and 16 oz. portions. Voila! The new currency of the People!


240 posted on 07/24/2011 6:35:15 PM PDT by darth
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