Are these ruins of biblical City of David?

CNN ^ | July 2011 | Matthew Chance

[SunkenCiv]

Professor Israel Finkelstein, of Tel Aviv University, pointed out that the remains are not evidence of a powerful biblical state.

He said: "We are not talking about some great empire ruled from a wonderful capital, the way we look at Assyria in the 9th century B.C., or even the northern Kingdom of Israel in the 9th century B.C. We are here in a formative phase of the rise of Judah."

Finkelstein added: "Khirbet Qeiyafa does not make Judah a great empire with great armies."

Garfinkel argued that even if it was not the great empire of the bible, its existence is significant.

"What people try to do is say that the Kingdom of Judah didn't exist," he said. "What I am saying is that it existed. It's a small one, not so glorified as the Bible presented. But it doesn't mean there was nothing."

[SunkenCiv]

This is total B.S.

Finding the City of David

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Renfield. Finkelstein's full of it, as always, with his stupid low chronology. "Oh, the City of David isn't Jerusalem, it's this previously identified fortress site. Notice how small it is? That's because the Bible is wrong."

• 'Oldest Hebrew writing found near J'lem'
• Oldest Possibly Hebrew Inscription Possibly Found
• Archeologist finds 3,000-year old Hebrew text
• New evidence surfaces of David's kingdom
• Archaeologists claim discovery of oldest Hebrew writing
• King David Era Pottery Shard Supports Biblical Narrative
• When Was the Bible Really Written?
• Deciphered etching sheds new light on Bible's origin
• David and Solomon
• Archaeologists Return to 'King Solomon's Mines' of Biblical Edom

[SunkenCiv]

It's one of *those* topics.

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[Tzfat]

Israel Finkelstein et al have an agenda. It isn’t a good one.

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

From an earlier topic, let's see if this graphic works:

[SunkenCiv]

This had to be adapted from the website, the links used freakin' javascript.

[ThomasThomas]

I have wonder what happen to Garfinkel after he broke up with Simon .

[SunkenCiv]

This writer called it in the air (a comment on an earlier story):

Posted by: G. Kyle Essary | August 02, 2010 at 08:06 PM

The result: Finkelstein will be forced to posit another polity, apparently erased from Israel's collective memory, to account for Iron Age KQ.

Finkelstein is way too smart to make that move, although sometimes it takes brilliance to stretch and shape the data into compartments where it won't fit properly.

I would love to have had a tape recorder at the dig last week to hear him and Yossi discussing everything.

[SunkenCiv]

/bingo

[SunkenCiv]

He had a bit part in an episode of “Flight of the Conchords”.

[Quix]

Love it. Thanks thanks.

[Quix]

Somewhat interesting archeological find with absurd spin on it.

[Huskrrrr]

Good one!

[MHGinTN]

What is that scripture again regarding end times? ... Look here! Look there!’ ... ever learning, never coming to a saving knowledge.

[GeronL]

Atlantis?

j/k

[WePledge]

Isn't this fellow the one in constant argument with his colleagues over the dating of artifacts.If I am not mistaken
he even argued that a dated coin found in the ruins had somehow “migrated” to an earlier level after it was found
during the excavation of what was believed to be Solomon era
ruins. I remember reading about it in the Jerusalem Post
about a month ago but don't know how to find the article.
If someone could find it I'm sure it would shed more light on this.

[Quix]

One part of that you may be thinking of might be Mat 24

The other:

2 Tim 3:7:

New International Version (©1984)
always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.
New Living Translation (©2007)
(Such women are forever following new teachings, but they are never able to understand the truth.)

English Standard Version (©2001)
always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

International Standard Version (©2008)
These women are always studying but are never able to arrive at a full knowledge of the truth.

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
These women are always studying but are never able to recognize the truth.

King James Bible
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

American King James Version
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

American Standard Version
ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Bible in Basic English
Ever learning, and never coming to the knowledge of what is true.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Ever learning, and never attaining to the knowledge of the truth.

Darby Bible Translation
always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

English Revised Version
ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Webster’s Bible Translation
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Weymouth New Testament
and are always learning something new, and yet are never able to arrive at real knowledge of the truth.

World English Bible
always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Young’s Literal Translation
always learning, and never to a knowledge of truth able to come,

[decimon]

This is total B.S.

Before Seinfeld?

[Larry Lucido]

Simon? He was kind of a zealot.