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Don't Kill the Oxford Comma!
Salon ^ | THURSDAY, JUN 30, 2011 | MARY ELIZABETH WILLIAMS

Posted on 07/22/2011 10:38:30 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Psalm 73

hangin head in shame....


41 posted on 07/22/2011 11:15:46 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Exactly! I always used a comma in that space. The dumbing down of the planet continues in earnest.


42 posted on 07/22/2011 11:16:51 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: nickcarraway

Dropping the comma before ‘and’ has been allowable for 40 years — depending on which usage guide one uses. It isn’t a new concept.


43 posted on 07/22/2011 11:18:18 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Constitution Day

Lawyers for one thing are very particular about commas. A comma used or not used can very significantly change the interpretation of a contract for one example.


44 posted on 07/22/2011 11:19:50 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: nickcarraway

Gratuitously deleting the final comma in a series is yet another example of what I decribe as, Greshem’s Law of Grammar: Bad grammar drives out the good.

Despite decades of witnessing the horror of the new usage, even in newer school grammar books, I’ve never brought myself to follow this clearly foolish trend that obfiscates meaning. Oxford should maintain the King’s English rather than defer to the devolutionary grammar of the colonies.

Reading the Oxford decision, I haven’t felt this linguistically betrayed since the U.S. debut of the ubiquitous, long-running, grammatically-influential advertising jarring ditty, “Winston tastes good, like [sic] a cigarette should.”

Kicking out the clarifying, parallel comma is kicking out a supporting wall of Western civilization.


45 posted on 07/22/2011 11:21:35 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“How did Oxford come to own the comma in the first place ?”

They agreed to renounce the use of the tilde and umlaut, and traded two semi-quavers for it in the early years of the twentieth century, in an obscure clause of the Balfour Declaration. Like so many things in history, it seemed like a good idea at the time.


46 posted on 07/22/2011 11:25:44 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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To: apillar

Amen. That’s exactly what I posted. What a bunch of noisey bodies with nothing better to do. Wow...


47 posted on 07/22/2011 11:26:06 AM PDT by cubreporter (From TEA to Shining TEA - Go Rush Limbaugh..a giant of all that is good.)
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To: T-Bird45; Peter W. Kessler; mickie; Bob Ireland; gonzo; Matchett-PI; JulieRNR21; mcmuffin
I was an associate editor for a magazine publishing house back in the day.

I never used, nor do I use now, a comma before the "and".

For instance, I write, "I love oranges, apples and pears.".....or..... "Bill O'Reilly is a socialist, liberal, progressive, populist and statist gas bag."

Many moons ago I borrowed exclamation points from freeper Pete Kessler, and though I have used them profusely, abundantly and frequently over the years I still have many left. I LUV exclamation points! Thanks, Pete!

Punctuation marks, like paragraphs, are our friends!!!

Leni !

48 posted on 07/22/2011 11:26:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal (We need ObamaCare Like Nancy Pelosi Needs a Halloween Mask)
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To: nickcarraway

I find that comma to be unneeded personally.


49 posted on 07/22/2011 11:29:20 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: nickcarraway

Eats, shoots & leaves.


50 posted on 07/22/2011 11:37:04 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: nickcarraway
Com-ma, com-ma, down doobie-doo-down-down.

Com-ma, com-ma, down doobie-doo-down-down.

Breakin' up is hard to do.

[Neil Sedaka, Breaking Up Is Hard to Do.]

51 posted on 07/22/2011 11:37:41 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: hellbender

Comma comma comma comma comma chameleon.....


52 posted on 07/22/2011 11:38:58 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Hootowl99
Lawyers for one thing are very particular about commas. A comma used or not used can very significantly change the interpretation of a contract for one example.

I remember reading about a court case where money was left for 3 people by a deceased relative. It was to be split evenly between Tom, Dick and Harry. The judges interpretation was that Tom was to receive 50%, Dick and Harry were to split the other 50% as they were judged to be "together" and not separate like Tom.

Interesting stuff!
53 posted on 07/22/2011 11:41:49 AM PDT by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: Hootowl99

Duly noted. However, the link goes to the video of a song called “Oxford Comma”...(grin)


54 posted on 07/22/2011 11:46:18 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I’ve heard that the umlaut and the goose step march are somehow related...


55 posted on 07/22/2011 11:49:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: nickcarraway

“Eats shoots, and leaves.”


56 posted on 07/22/2011 11:51:46 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Constitution Day

Was the song about a lawyer? Was I even close? LOL!


57 posted on 07/22/2011 11:53:35 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Constitution Day; Tax-chick

OK, everybody! Put down the dictionary and nobody gets hurt!

Wish I could understand the lyrics better. The video itself was great. Lots of neat things going on there and no cutaways.

And to answer your question....hey, TC!


58 posted on 07/22/2011 12:02:27 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: hoosierham

Forget about grammar! Have you heard newspeople saying “pitcher” instead of “picture”? This one is happening all over the place.


59 posted on 07/22/2011 12:02:37 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: copaliscrossing

Or how about this?

I model my life on my parents, the pope and Mother Teresa. :-)


60 posted on 07/22/2011 12:05:18 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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