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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2011 (Vol. 28) July 22
Free Republic | 7-22-2011 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 07/22/2011 5:42:39 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners. I canned all the tomatoes I had picked the previous week this past Wednesday. Sadly it did not take very long to do the canning. I also roasted (chared and peeled) about half of the Jalapenos I had picked and froze the other half. I also cut up and froze some green Bell Peppers and zucchini squash.

On Wednesday I had a pop up T-storm visit the garden and then yesterday it was cloudy all morning and around 11 am a very nice, lazy, soaking rain started falling and it lasted for about two and a half hours. It dropped the temps down into the high 70s for a few hours and then the sun came out and the temps went to the low 90s, not a bad day at all!

If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.

I hope all your gardens are flourishing.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
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To: CJ Wolf

One more thing, I should have mentioned is altitude. If you are above 1000 feet, you will need to process a bit longer in the water bath. I am not sure exactly how long, but the ball book should have it, or some of the University Extension sites.


81 posted on 07/22/2011 10:04:59 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marie Antoinette
My wheelbarrow is broken so it would take quite a few trips

This is why we have sons!

If it rains hard, the compost would wash right through the mulch, but if not, you'd probably want to put it under.

82 posted on 07/22/2011 10:10:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: CJ Wolf
I am constantly amazed at what you can find on YouTube including this video on making Bread & Butter pickles. It has 14,500 views but half of them could have been to watch his two dogs playing in the yard. Be sure you are using canning jars that you have sterilized and NEW lids. You can reuse the bands several times but you must use new lids everytime...
83 posted on 07/22/2011 10:13:35 AM PDT by tubebender (The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some very good ideas)
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To: who knows what evil?

Well okay! Thank you. I have some algoflash from last year.


84 posted on 07/22/2011 10:20:38 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: greeneyes

thanks greeneyes - one last question,instead of a vacuum sealer, how about some glad freezer bags and just get out as much air as possible before sealing, would that work?


85 posted on 07/22/2011 10:21:53 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Tax-chick

Rain? What is this rain you speak of? I suppose I could just water it in.


86 posted on 07/22/2011 10:23:59 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: Marie Antoinette

I hear it falls from the sky.

I pay for county water, so I hesitate to use it unless it’s essential.


87 posted on 07/22/2011 10:28:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: Marie Antoinette

You are good to go!


88 posted on 07/22/2011 10:32:17 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: CJ Wolf
I’d like to make some kind of pickles spears or like the ones they have in the big jars where the whole cucumber is pickled.

Those are barrel pickles. I've been researching those but haven't made any yet. I did pick up a large glass jar, about 12" diameter and 18" tall to use as the pickling barrel. Here are some recipes I've found.

Recipe from "the joy of pickling", like NYC deli barrel pickles.

1 1/2 Tbs salt to 3 cups water
bay leaf
garlic
mustard seed
corriander seed
dill
black peppercorns
1 bunch grape leaves(for firmness)
1 quart pickling cukes

Combine in pickling crock or large non-reactive jar (glass, etc). Let sit for 7-10 days. The brine will get cloudy then clear when done.
Scrape off any mold as it appears. Make sure the cukes are completely submerged, you can use a plastic bag full of brine put on top.
Also, make sure the entire blossom end is removed or they will get soft.


Half-Sour Pickles

"If you are looking for a crispy deli pickle, this is the one to make - mildly sour, richly flavored with dill and garlic."

8 c. water
1/4 c. pickling salt
1 gallon small pickling cucumbers
6 garlic cloves
6 dill heads or sprigs of fresh dill
2 Tbsp. dill seeds
2 small fresh or dried hot peppers
2 Tbsp. mixed pickling spices

* Combine water and pickling salt in a pickle crock. Stir well to dissolve the salt.
* Wash cukes and remove blossom ends. Drain well. Add the cukes to the salted water, mixing in the garlic, dill, hot peppers, and pickling spices with the cukes. stir gently to distribute the spices evenly.
* Cover with a weight to keep the cukes submerged in the brine. Cover the crock.
* Store the crock at 68 degrees F. Check the crock every day. Remove any scum that forms on the top. The pickles should be "half-sour" in about 3 days.

Taste the pickles. If the results are pleasing, prepare the pickles for long-term or refrigerator storage.

* Pack the pickles in sterilized quart jars. Pour the brine into a nonaluminum pan and bring to a boil.
* Boil for 5 minutes. Cool to room temperature.
* Pour the cooled brine over the pickles, seal the jars and store in the refrigerator.

Because of the relatively low salt concentration in the brine, the pickles spoil easily if they aren't refrigerated after a week. Don't use this recipe if you are looking for a very sour pickle.


Super-Simple Refrigerator Pickles - from DianaInWisconsin

• 1 cup distilled white vinegar
• 1 tablespoon salt
• 2 cups white sugar
• 6 cups coin-sliced cucumbers (peeled or not, your choice)
• 1 cup sliced onions
• 1 cup sliced green or red bell peppers
• As much chopped garlic or peeled cloves as you like!
• 2-3 Tbsp. of pre-mixed pickling spices, to taste.

Bring vinegar, salt, sugar and pickling spices to a boil in a heavy-bottomed pan on the stove. Stir and boil until the sugar has dissolved, about 10 minutes.

Place the cucumbers, onions, peppers and garlic in a large plastic or glass bowl. Pour the hot vinegar mixture over the vegetables. Transfer to sterile containers (mason jars or Tupperware containers are fine, too) and store in the refrigerator.

When you eat up all the slices, you can add fresh cucumber slices to the liquid and make some more! This lasts about 3 cycles, IMHO. Then, I mix up a fresh batch. You can always use the leftover juices as a marinade for inexpensive steak; it tenderizes the meat and adds a great flavor.

89 posted on 07/22/2011 10:46:15 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: roofgoat
Will work for a limited time, any air in bag means freezer burn very shortly. Vacuum will last a year or more.
90 posted on 07/22/2011 10:49:06 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Early potatoes are dying off, ready to dig. The first ones have been disappointing-—small and few this year.

The sudden switch from a few days in the 80s back to 60s/70s for a week or so; then suddenly jumping to 100+ heat hasn’t done anything any good.

In late june. when the 80s hit, I planted the paper-pot okra seedings, just in time for the cool snap. They’ve been struggling ever since.

Naturally, the peas are on their last legs; the beans are finally starting to flower; just have to keep them watered.

We have been getting pattypan squash; by next week, the food bank should be getting the surplus.

Tomatoes are not ripening what set; and the heat is preventing any more from setting. I’ve also only seen one immature pepper, a Cubanelle, so far.

The volunteer spinach (now gone to seed for next year) onions, soup peas, barley, and rhubarb are the successes so far, though we should get a good dried bean crop.

Very disappointing year overall.


91 posted on 07/22/2011 10:53:11 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: CJ Wolf
I don’t have a canner. not sure what one really is.

BTW, before I got a pressure canner, I just used a wide, deep lobster style pot as a hot water canner. You just need something deep enough to fully submerge the canning jar.

92 posted on 07/22/2011 10:53:41 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; Texas Fossil
***CHIME!***

I used blossom set when we still lived in SoCal, some 30+ years ago, so this MAY be out of date.

It did work as advertised, giving us lots of ‘extra’ tomatoes during hot spells.

The caveat is that they were almost entirely seedless, so lost a lot of slicing appeal.

93 posted on 07/22/2011 11:00:33 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I use a misting system and an oscillating fan in my greenhouse for cooling. It drops the temps below 90 degrees. Thai and tobasco peppers, fennel, papaya, banana, and mustard greens love it. Tomato’s will grow long and leggy with it. They like the heat, but you need to deep water them at least once a week.


94 posted on 07/22/2011 11:01:15 AM PDT by Sarajevo (The only reason I would take up walking is so that I could hear heavy breathing again.)
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To: roofgoat
my favorite, Kosher dill and Bread & butter. Are they easy to do for a rookie?

You can use a Ball or Mrs Wages mix packet and its very easy. They all use canning instructions, which is really not as difficult as people think it is. I was almost scared to try canning for the first time last summer, but as long as you have a large enough pot, its easy!!

95 posted on 07/22/2011 11:04:31 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: tubebender

Yes, you should use new lids, but I’m reusing some. In fact, I’m using jars and lids from some store bought pickles for my pickles this year. Only one of the 8 or so did not seal, and they went right into the fridge and will be eaten quickly. I like the size and shape of those jars.


96 posted on 07/22/2011 11:10:54 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Strange day on the farm today....The wife came in with a chick that was hatched by one of the ducks. The chickens destroyed all the duck eggs and laid in her nest. We need to build a separate area for the ducks to nest in when they get broody.

Zukes, cukes, and Julienne tomato's are still coming in. I've given a ton to the neighbors. No luck with okra this year though.

97 posted on 07/22/2011 11:27:34 AM PDT by Sarajevo (The only reason I would take up walking is so that I could hear heavy breathing again.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Curriculum vitae — a fancy, Latin word for resume. Professors and attorneys often use that word, instead of the more mundane “resume” which is what engineers and the rest of us use. LOL


98 posted on 07/22/2011 11:31:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: tubebender

The dogs were the stars of that little video!


99 posted on 07/22/2011 12:15:18 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Oh! Wait! Here's a positive response from a plant supplier Garden Harvest Supply :

We will be shipping live plants all fall. Simply order whenever you would like your veggies shipped.

Tina Miller
Garden Harvest Supply
Phone: 260-589-3384
Toll Free: 888-907-4769
info@gardenharvestsupply.com
http://www.gardenharvestsupply.com/ProductCart/pc/Buy-Vegetable-Plants-Online-c44.htm

Looks like they've got a big selection. So there you go!

100 posted on 07/22/2011 12:48:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mrs Lindsay: "You're looking cool, Yogi." Yogi Berra: "Thanks, you're not looking so hot yourself.")
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