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The Absurd Case of Karl Marx's Dialectical Fundamentalism
Gulagbound ^ | 7/15/2011 | Mark Musser

Posted on 07/15/2011 8:53:37 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman

Marx sharply criticized those who tried to solve their problems philosophically or religiously, i.e., in thought, and advocated that they can only be solved by changing reality in practice so that the problem disappears. In other words, philosophy and religion had to be brought down to earth so that secular redemption could come through revolutionary practice, and not through thought or faith. As such, it was Marx who infamously wrote “the philosophers have only interpreted the world differently, what matters is to change it.” Due to their indifference to the material necessities of life, philosophy and religion could thus only maintain the oppressive status quo. Henceforth, revolutionary, political activism became the hallmark of Marxist tradition ...

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TOPICS: History; Religion; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: communism; dialectic; hegel; karlmarx; leftism; liberalism; marxism; philosophy; progressivism; progthink

1 posted on 07/15/2011 8:53:41 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Marx sharply criticized those who tried to solve their problems philosophically or religiously, i.e., in thought, and advocated that they can only be solved by changing reality in practice so that the problem disappears.

By that logic, the next time a marxist makes me angry I should simply kill him, thereby "changing reality in practice" so that my problem "disappears", instead of just walking away and reminding myself that the world is big enough to house people of differing political philosophies. Someone please correct me if I have misinterpreted Herr Marx.

2 posted on 07/15/2011 9:04:26 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: WayneS

That happened all to often of course.


3 posted on 07/15/2011 9:07:59 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

I actually read Das Kapital. It’s like reading a phone book. I dare you to read the first 50 pages and stay awake. You don’t have to take Marx apart because the Democrats/liberals/socialists don’t actually read his crap. They just want to take power and find they can’t do it in the system they’re in. So, they start talking about redistributing land and wealth and the stupid in the society believe them, and kill a bunch of innocent people, and then put in charge the people who weren’t smart enough to rise to the top in the old society. Talk about a death-spiral of government.


4 posted on 07/15/2011 9:17:43 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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5 posted on 07/15/2011 9:22:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

bfl


6 posted on 07/15/2011 9:23:03 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Back in college I needed a "300 level" economics course, and the only one I could fit into my schedule was "Marxist Economics." I tried reading "Das Kapital," but it was the most boring book I have tried reading since Sinclair Lewis's "Babbit." I never did more than a few pages into it, so I wound up reading all sorts of things written about "Das Kapital."

My number one problem with Marx's entire philosophy was his reliance on "Dialectical Materialism," which in effect ignores the fact that economies are NOT static systems. It also infers that we can understand anything, and then change it. And that man is the master of the world, and nothing is beyond his reach. Sort of like saying that if we understand a wild animal we can control it. Interestingly enough, that may work from time to time, but once it doesn't work, bad things happen.

Mark

7 posted on 07/15/2011 9:42:39 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman
Marx sharply criticized those who tried to solve their problems philosophically or religiously, i.e., in thought

Virtually every individual profesing to be a Marxist/Leninist believes dialectical materialism is the proper philosophy for understanding and changing the world. Indeed, what dialectical materialism is to the Marxist, God is to the Christian, Virtually all the ways Christians describe God - eternal, infinite, uncreated, indestructible, lawgiver, life, mind, etc. - Marxists assign to dialectical matter. Making matter the essence of all things is called metaphysical materialism, This philosophy affirms matter as ultimately real and denies the reality of God. It is a "sort of godless theology."

8 posted on 07/15/2011 9:47:51 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: mjp

Yes, I can understand Democrats now........


9 posted on 07/15/2011 9:52:53 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: blueunicorn6

Yes, I know, but he is still their hero. It is precisely because they do not read Marx that they do not understand what Marxism really is.


10 posted on 07/15/2011 10:06:09 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: mjp

Well stated.


11 posted on 07/15/2011 10:07:47 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: Yardstick

You will have to explain what bfl means, but I am a bit afraid to find out.


12 posted on 07/15/2011 10:08:44 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: vanilla swirl

It also helps explain their progressive hope in the future and all that talk about hope and change. Without understanding Marx, those are just slogans that most people do not understand.


13 posted on 07/15/2011 10:10:17 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: MarkL

You are not the only one to have a hard time reading Das Kapital - it is a universal problem.


14 posted on 07/15/2011 10:11:15 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman; MarkL
You are not the only one to have a hard time reading Das Kapital - it is a universal problem.

Chuckle -- ever try reading you some George Soros? On his bastardization of "Open Society," or on (gulp) "Fallibility?"

Karl Marx on drugs (and about as evil) for the imaginary, helter-skelter piles of abstraction upon abstraction. Freud would have loved to meet Georg; straight to the couch; might have made a fortune in Rothschild money off him, exploring Soros' rationalizations.

15 posted on 07/15/2011 12:13:24 PM PDT by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... | We are Gulag Bound)
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16 posted on 07/15/2011 12:19:14 PM PDT by unspun (It's the Sovereignty, Stu... | We are Gulag Bound)
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To: blueunicorn6
then put in charge the people who weren’t smart enough to rise to the top in the old society

I call it the "Nero complex" - burn it down and rebuild it with their own design.

Hard leftists want to embolden & empower the "lumpenproletariat" - the poorest of the poor. This gives them an army (physical, economic, etc.) to appropriate and/or destroy the competition (evil capitalists). Then they can step in and take over.

Looking at Obamanomics through this lens and it all makes perfect sense.

17 posted on 07/15/2011 12:32:27 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

“Bump for later”, as in for later reading. The “f” isn’t as diabolical as you might think.


18 posted on 07/15/2011 10:02:02 PM PDT by Yardstick
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Thanks Olympiad Fisherman. Marx devised a climactic model for what he called history; he did so by misappropriating the Hegelian dialectic, which has no big finish. Marxism is for people who don’t like change in any form, and prefer to live in one of those gated communities with all the bylaws, like in that episode of The X-Files.


19 posted on 07/17/2011 1:06:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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