Posted on 07/07/2011 8:43:43 AM PDT by Signalman
If the election were held today, President Obama would get only 56 percent of the Jewish vote against a generic Republican candidate, down from the 78 percent he won in 2008 and less than the 74 percent John Kerry received in 2004.
This is the key finding of a survey of 1,000 Jewish voters I conducted from June 20-27 using telephone and Internet interviews. After asking basic questions of the entire sample, I proceeded to drill down with more detailed questions for the Jews in the sample who identified themselves as Democrats. The overall survey has a 95 percent confidence of a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.
Triggering the increasing Jewish disaffection with Obama is opposition to his proposal that an Israeli return to ’67 borders be the starting point of peace negotiations. By 10-83, Jewish voters opposed the plan. Jewish Democrats opposed it by 10-67. Asked if President Obama is “too biased against Israel,” Jewish voters as a whole agreed with the charge by 39-30, while 32 percent of Jewish Democrats also agreed (and 40 percent of Jewish Democrats disagreed).
Jews who identified themselves as Democrats also said:
• By 37-47, they do not think Obama is “doing a good job of promoting peace in the Middle East.”
• By 43-42, they break evenly on whether Obama “is being too tough on Israel.”
• By 61-30, Jewish Democrats think the president “is naïve in thinking that he can make peace with the Arabs.”
The survey probed the issue of 1967 borders in greater depth, reading Jewish Democrats a statement giving both sides of the issue:
President Obama says that Israel should give up the land it occupied after the 1967 war except for some adjustments. He says that these borders would give the Palestinians a viable nation of their own and would lead to a settlement of their conflict with Israel. Others disagree, saying that these borders are too small, exposing Israel to shelling from the Golan Heights in the north and giving the nation a middle only nine miles wide. They say that returning to the pre-’67 borders would not stop the Arabs from wanting to destroy Israel but would make it easier to do so. Which view comes closest to your own?
In response, Jewish Democrats opposed returning to the ’67 borders by 82-8.
Israel is very important to Jewish Democrats.
• By 86-4, Jewish Democrats agree that “it is very important that Jews have a country of their own, considering their history of persecution.”
• They disagree, by 9-75, with the idea that “Israel has become a bully, pushing its Arab neighbors around.”
• Jewish Democrats agree, by a margin of 85-4, that “Israel is a small country surrounded by countries and peoples that want to destroy it.”
• By an overwhelming 12-71, they reject the idea that “Israel is intolerant of its neighbors and does not do enough to get along with them in peace”.
• By 79-4, Jewish Democrats agree that “Israel wants to live in peace with its neighbors but the Arabs won’t let it” and reject, by 11-73, the statement that “Israel is always trying to grab more land and throw out the Palestinians who live there.”
• Finally, Jewish Democrats agree, 67-13, with the overview that “if the Arabs lay down their weapons, there would be no more war. It is just their desire to destroy Israel that creates the conflict.”
Given the importance of Israel to the Jewish Democratic voters of the United States, it is clear that Obama is playing with fire as he toughens the American foreign policy toward Israel and banks his credibility on the idea that peace is possible simply through Israeli territorial concessions. American Jews — Democrats included — reject the very foundation of Obama’s efforts to achieve peace in the Middle East as “naïve.”
Obama is in the process of breaking the close relationship between his party and the Jewish community, a liaison first formed by Eleanor and Franklin Roosevelt in the 1930s. In increasing numbers, American Jews and Jewish Democrats are leaving the president’s side.
> Well, given the most active thread yesterday is that non-
> Christians can’t be conservative, the conservative tent
> is hardly welcoming.
I would broaden it and say Judeo-Christian values, that is, Biblical/Torah values. Pro-family, pro-mind-your-own-business, pro-freedom.
> That said, if every Jewish voter voted for McCain, Obama
> would still have been put in office by you goy.
100% correct, sadly.
> As your prophet said: remove the plank in your own eye,
> then worry about the speck that is the Jewish vote.
Y’shua was an observant Jew, and he was your prophet, too.
:)
Even it were correct, this would matter, why?
Jews are not exactly a large group of votes. Hardly worth competing for.
> Y’shua was an observant Jew, and he was your prophet, too.
> :)
Actually he was your prophet first, and all the first Christians were observant Jews.
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The Leftist Liberal Jews (almost all of them) I know would sooner cut off an arm or kill one of their children before they would ever vote anything but Democrat. They are that obsessed and pig-headed. Facts and reality mean nothing to them. They are voting for some ‘fantasy’ they have concocted in their mind about what Liberalism really is.
There is no more anti-semitic group on Earth than ‘die-hard’ Leftists, including many Jews. Throughout history, Communism, Socialism, and Marxism, has done nothing but rape, torture, and kill Jews, and yet they love it. (???) It is a Jewish thing and something I will never understand. It is irrational in the extreme.
Leftist Jews will never ever ever ever under any circumstances, vote Republican. They are just physically and psychologically unable to do it, for whatever enigmatic Jewish reason. However, given that it is fairly obvious that Obama hates and has zero respect for Jews and Judaism, the most likely scenario is that they will not vote for Sheik Obama. They will likely just not vote at all. (except for the spittle spitting mouth foaming Libs. They would vote for Hitler himself if he ran as a Democrat. they are freaking insane...)
just my opinion
I was not on that thread yesterday.
T^hanks for playing/
Good for you, but your reply has zero to do with my point.
it's not about the votes...it's all about the benjamins.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html
Karnak: Sean Hannity.
Ed: Sean Hannity
Karnak: That’s right, Ruth’s Chris breath.
Karnak: (opens envelope) Who gives a flying ___ what Dick Morris says?
He tells me that they are the descendents of the children of Israel who worshiped the golden calf rather than side with Moses.
Dick Morris is the silliest, most self-righteous assclown has-been talking-head in the country. He expects a standing ovation for this obvious crap? Hey Dick: Go rewrite CONDI vs HILLARY or have your toes sucked with Marv or something, or get a real job.
Whoever wins two of the three gains a modest nationwide vicotry. Anyone who wins all three and it is a landslide, albeit a possible minority nationwide landslide like Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996.
Jews are liberal, the republicans will never win their vote, Obama will still hit 70%.
If republicans could reach 30% of the Jewish vote, it would be the best showing in decades.
Obama starting to lose Jewish voters
Took hitler a while too.....
Every time there is an antisemitic remark or speech in Congress, it is a Democrat.
Every time there is a resolution to condemn or somehow ‘punish’ Israel, it is sponsored by Democrats.
American campuses, the bastion of Liberalism, are becoming more and more, almost intolerably antiJewish/antisemitic.
Look dammit! Leftists HATE Jews. I do not understand why or how they cannot get this in their heads? They are afraid or Palin, Regan, McCain, Gingrich, Bachman, Romney, et al, but 'Love' Obama, Holder, Chavez, Castro, Hillary, and Michelle all of which are documented or have been accused of making anti-semitic statements. How freakin crazy is that?
Every Leftist or Muslim or Leftist/Muslim country on Earth regards Jews as second(or even third) class citizens and Leftists always have throughout history. And yet so many Jews work so hard to tear down America, American Law, and American traditions, which provide protection to them, and work to install another Leftist, Jew persecuting government that many of them fled away from just barely escaping with their lives.
My only thought, the only thought that I can imagine, is that Leftist Jews are clinically insane, or just have no understanding or comprehension of history. A history which is playing out again on college campuses in America with widespread anti-Zionist (read anti-jewish) rallies, which usually bar Jews from attending. Am I the only one who remembers that this was happening in 1935?
I don't know what to say. It is just so confusing. I wouldn't rant about it so much except for the fact that I care. And, absurd, illogical, irrationality, fascinates me. Seeing a people chase and support their own persecution and potential destruction fits that criteria.
LOSING!!
I agree with you. Besides, Morris almost always is dead wrong. I just saw another reputable poll that says Obama has lost virtually no Jewish support.
“Took hitler a while too.....”
I know you are joking, but it’s just not funny.
Hitler was openly anti-semitic from the start, with signs up forbidding Jewish Germans from entering the meetings and got his name with roving gangs that randomly attacked Jewish people and destroyed Jewish shops.
Freepers are better than that type of joke.
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